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  1. #11
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Could turn it into a gil sink of sorts with having it so players rent out a stall for their retainer in an instanced market street.
    That’s exactly how I 1.0 market wards worked. Your retainer was placed randomly or you could rent an available stall along the sides of the halls and put your retainer there instead.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

  2. #12
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    As mentioned, XI did this with player bazaars and 1.0 did this with the market ward. Neither one was very enjoyable to work with. And at least in my opinion, there’s nothing that seems very immersive about becoming a glorified vendor while you’re AFK. You would be better off requesting cushions and carpets that can be used like the parasols and just advertise and sell your wares manually (and probably limit their use to certain areas to prevent people from doing things like carpet-crowning market boards).
    nah it worked well in ffxi. That is because you were limited to 7 items in the AH. But you could move your character to anywhere in the game world to bazaar. Want to Bazaar in Davoi, have at it. It was actually great to park your character near a zone wall to sell things like food and such.. FFXI also limited the number of crafts you could master as well so you couldn't be a jack of all trades so it made it much more viable.

    Here they could easily reimplement the retainer search via the MB and have a teleport linked to where the retainer is set down in the wards and they could provide a return token to the city state they came from. This would increase the traffic to the wards. SE would also need to make retainers placeable inside an apartment/home to make it fair. I mean you have mannequins that can are attached to retainer but no one knows if you are selling a set of armor and such either.

    RMT has already infested this game and RMT will be here till the server's die. I mean they still infest FFXI lol.
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  3. #13
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    Arillyn Lovesong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post

    The whole Market Ward system in 1.0 was a good idea on paper, but one that did not work well in practice, and hence I do not see SE bringing it back.
    The pain of the market ward before the search function was added was beyond painful. And trying to get a retainer in the Ul'dah market ward after an update - that was as real as getting online now when new housing wards are added!
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    Just reminds me of FF11 outside jeuno or 1.0 retainer hell
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  5. #15
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    FFXIV 1.0 had the Market Ward (...)

    The whole Market Ward system in 1.0 was a good idea on paper, but one that did not work well in practice, and hence I do not see SE bringing it back.
    Thanks for explaining all this. I played only a short time in 1.X due to old PC limitations (I never got past level 6 at the time lol).
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMisato View Post
    RMT has already infested this game and RMT will be here till the server's die. I mean they still infest FFXI lol.
    You're right, I was mostly thinking about games like Ragnarok Online and Aion where players could type out a message for their shop that would be displayed above their heads, so that just became another avenue for RMT to advertise/spam. I suppose if they didn't add something like that it would be different.

    Either way it feels a bit redundant now that we've had the market board for so long, it works well enough so there's very little to gain from tacking another system on top of it just because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    You're right, I was mostly thinking about games like Ragnarok Online and Aion where players could type out a message for their shop that would be displayed above their heads, so that just became another avenue for RMT to advertise/spam. I suppose if they didn't add something like that it would be different.

    Either way it feels a bit redundant now that we've had the market board for so long, it works well enough so there's very little to gain from tacking another system on top of it just because.
    Yea I remember RO. I still from time to time login FFXI and sell some stuff from playing but yea its crazy. But yea I think SE could have tied in something with the current MB and gave a reason for people to visit the wards if there was a direct tele there via the MB and a free tele back. AFterall SE gave us mannequins to sell armor/jewelry as sets and you can buy stuff directly for retainers without the tax if you happen to wander the wards and check out the retainers that are in the yards there. Especially since people complain wards are lifeless for the most part. This would be an interesting to way to look at increasing traffic through the wards lol.

    personally it is what is at this stage in the game thought so its just wishful thinking.
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    Cin Aamon
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    I've played games that allow this (Age of Wushu I think? Or Aion or whatever)
    And they will merely clutter places. Stalls will be in the most obnoxious locations.
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    Lara Felix
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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    in front of the zone line to Jeuno in Rolanberry Fields, people were AFK everywhere to sell from their bazaar.
    Ah, RolanMart. The good old days.
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    So many wise players on these forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45
    You pay for the game. You pay for a monthly fee. Then you pay to not play the game. Logic.
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    I guess when people don't agree with you, they instantly become an elitist.

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyroeFelix View Post
    Ah, RolanMart. The good old days.
    hey gotta avoid that tax rate in Jeuno somehow lol
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