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    Rina Tsukimori
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    request : player stalls

    hello , i have this little request it doesn't affect the game but it does affect the immersion and the game's world
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    i would love if we have the option to let our characters sell by themselves and not having to use the marketboard . it would be something like this

    and everytime the character starts selling it would do a special emote that lets you open a small stall or just sit on a carpet with items in front of you .
    there doesn't have to be a difference between selling on the marketboard or in these stalls , or maybe just remove the market fees if you are going to sell using a stall ?
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    .. Do you like permanent login queues?



    EDIT: let me clarify
    Right now there is no particular reason for people to stay logged in other than dodging queues right after major patches. Giving them reasons to stay logged in for long periods of time will keep servers at capacity during even "off" periods and hours. You will find more populous servers will have queues of hundreds or thousands depending on how many people are "squatting" just to sell things.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 11-11-2020 at 12:17 AM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    It's a cute idea, but every game I've seen something like this in very quickly turns into a RMT-infested cluttered mess unfortunately.
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    Olwen Mercier
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    In FF11 there is the Auction House system (basically our MB) and the Bazaar system which lets players sell items currently in their inventory (a bag icon next to their name to indicate they had things for sale). The AH had very limited quantities to go up for sale, thus many players also sold with the bazaar.

    It did lead to many players simply going AFK in and around Jeuno (the not expansion hub city). Near the AHs, near the housing, in front of the zone line to Jeuno in Rolanberry Fields, people were AFK everywhere to sell from their bazaar.

    FF11 did not suffer from queue times as, especially the large servers, FF14 does currently. And more AFK people would congest it further since you would remain logged in to sell this way, unlike the MB.

    FF14 1.X also used the bazaar system if I recall, but there was no auction house/market board. They took it out in ARR in favor of the Market Board.
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    Last edited by File2ish; 11-11-2020 at 12:12 AM.

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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    FF14 1.X also used the bazaar system if I recall, but there was no auction house/market board. They took it out in ARR in favor of the Market Board.
    FFXIV 1.0 had the Market Ward, an instanced area in each city where retainers actually physically spent their time. Originally this was the only way to actually buy anything from them, you had to enter the Market Ward and phyiscally walk up to a retainer there and speak with them as if you were accessing a NPC vendor. And as a part of that, there were empty stall fronts you could also rent and stick your retainer in to "make them more visible" to other players, which is similar to what the OP wants. Unfortunately this, like a lot of of what 1.0 did, did not work as well as they had planned - it was time consuming and annoying to have to look through every retainer there to find anything, and the laggy nature of 1.0 meant things often hung while the client and server talked to each other.

    After Yoshi took over as producer and director, one of the many changes he implemented to 1.0 was a search function was added to the Market Ward that greatly improved it (and thus you no longer had to speak to each retainer individually), and it is this search function that ultimately became the Market Board in ARR, the physical Ward being abolished and rolled into the search function (and hence that meant you could no longer hire market stalls). Lore wise the Market Wards still exist, but only as a hypothetical place retainers only can access (this is what the game means when you hire a retainer that you "send the retainer to the Markets"), the Market Board is basically a streamlined shopfront for accessing the wares of all retainers in the one place.

    The whole Market Ward system in 1.0 was a good idea on paper, but one that did not work well in practice, and hence I do not see SE bringing it back.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 11-11-2020 at 01:25 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    That’s exactly what I was thinking of how it was with 1.0 it was kind of a pain to find what you’re looking for.

    However I get it, it’s a cute idea. Just wish there was a better way to implement it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post

    The whole Market Ward system in 1.0 was a good idea on paper, but one that did not work well in practice, and hence I do not see SE bringing it back.
    The pain of the market ward before the search function was added was beyond painful. And trying to get a retainer in the Ul'dah market ward after an update - that was as real as getting online now when new housing wards are added!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    FFXIV 1.0 had the Market Ward (...)

    The whole Market Ward system in 1.0 was a good idea on paper, but one that did not work well in practice, and hence I do not see SE bringing it back.
    Thanks for explaining all this. I played only a short time in 1.X due to old PC limitations (I never got past level 6 at the time lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    in front of the zone line to Jeuno in Rolanberry Fields, people were AFK everywhere to sell from their bazaar.
    Ah, RolanMart. The good old days.
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    So many wise players on these forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45
    You pay for the game. You pay for a monthly fee. Then you pay to not play the game. Logic.
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    I guess when people don't agree with you, they instantly become an elitist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyroeFelix View Post
    Ah, RolanMart. The good old days.
    hey gotta avoid that tax rate in Jeuno somehow lol
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