Are some of the servers economies complete trash?

[Edax]

Why would I bid high and possibly get locked into paying high when I could just go make the item cheap?

If you want the item now, you bid high.

[Jojoya]

If you want the item now, you bid high.

Nah, I just make it.

So do all the other hundreds of thousands of players that have leveled crafting and gathering this expansion now that it's fast and easy to do.

Starting to understand the problem yet?

[Arrius]

Nah, I just make it.

So do all the other hundreds of thousands of players that have leveled crafting and gathering this expansion now that it's fast and easy to do.

Starting to understand the problem yet?

I do not.
I am glad that they did lower the entry bar for those, it shouldn't be this rough to get yourself crafters done.

[Chasingstars]

Nah, I just make it.

So do all the other hundreds of thousands of players that have leveled crafting and gathering this expansion now that it's fast and easy to do.

Starting to understand the problem yet?

If what you spoke was the truth, why would anyone bother putting up their items on the marketboard that come from crafting or gathering? As the assumption is that there is a supply and demand factor behind the item being listed. Yet if all these crafters and gatherers can just make it themselves then surely demand is at an all time low for any given mat or crafted item.

[Wolfsbane706]

Speaking as someone who doesn't care for crafting and gathering (They're boring) I happen to like when the MB prices are low. I'm not a fan of spitting out a couple hundred thousand for stuff I happen to be looking for at the time.

[Frizze]

If what you spoke was the truth, why would anyone bother putting up their items on the marketboard that come from crafting or gathering? As the assumption is that there is a supply and demand factor behind the item being listed. Yet if all these crafters and gatherers can just make it themselves then surely demand is at an all time low for any given mat or crafted item.

And this goes back to the complaint in the OP. He was complaining that profit was too low. He blamed server hopping and he blamed undercutting. Neither are problems when demand is roughly equal to or greater then supply. When items sell quickly, undercutting doesnt have time to become a problem. When only a few of something are available, server hopping doesnt matter because people will find the same results. For a great many items though, supply is infinite and demand is low. Like Jojoya, im an omni crafter(have been since early heavensward back when the ixali tribe was the only option outside of leves and just making stuff for leveling your crafting classes). If something would take me 5-10 mins to gather the mats and make, i might be willing to spend a couple thousand to buy one(i mean, ill probly spend that much on teleports so i might as well) but not really any more then that. Someone could list the item for whatever price they wanted, but if its over my line i will just spend a little time and make one with my name on it. Or more then one if i want to mess with the markets.

[Jojoya]

If what you spoke was the truth, why would anyone bother putting up their items on the marketboard that come from crafting or gathering? As the assumption is that there is a supply and demand factor behind the item being listed. Yet if all these crafters and gatherers can just make it themselves then surely demand is at an all time low for any given mat or crafted item.

The point is the demand pn the MB has dropped significantly from what it was in the past because so many players now are able to craft and gather on their own while supply is increasing on the MB because so many players are now able to craft and gather on their own.

Are there still players who didn't level those things willing to buy? Sure, but that number is much smaller than it used to be.

Are there still players who did level those things but are still wiling to buy? Sure, but only if the price makes it worth buying it off the MB instead of doing it themselves.

Where do you shop in real life where prices aren't displayed up front, where you're forced to make an offer to get the item and only after the fact find out if they're going to charge you less? If you don't do it in real life, why on earth would you do it in a game?

Would you continue to go to your favorite fast food restaurant to buy things you could easily make at home if every time you walk in you had to give them $50 and you don't know if they'll be giving you back $10 or $25 or $40 until after you get your food, and each time you go in that amount ends up being something different?

You're pretty dumb if you would.

[Edax]

Nah, I just make it.

So do all the other hundreds of thousands of players that have leveled crafting and gathering this expansion now that it's fast and easy to do.

Starting to understand the problem yet?

I am an omnicrafter and I don't bother crafting every piece of gear when I'm leveling a new job. It's quicker to just buy it 8 pieces of gear rather then gathering the giant mess of mats needed for them.

[Cyreil]

The market will always change and fluctuate. I made some nice coin when the Ishgard rankings were in full swing off of Diadem mats. Things slow down once the patch is at the end of it's cycle. People are taking a break so there are even less buyers right now.

The next patch will bring a new raid tier, so a demand for raid food, another Ishgard phase and a new treasure map dungeon. And anything involving submarines if they get updated. All new supply and demand.

[NanaWiloh]

One of the ways I make gil and its underhanded does not sell quickly but works. Sell HQ versions of merchant items the cost to profit margin just screams win, barring you take the time to do some checking. Kind hard to pass up doing when you see a Merchant selling a NQ Item for 2k, the mats going for less then 2k but the HQ version is selling for 50k?? lol Cant exactly say no too that even if it is price gouging like there is no tomorrow. There are really two types of markets the MB can be Windfall market: Make huge gil all at once or perennial market: Make a lot of gil slowly over time. Pretty obivious which market the MB is currently. Also got to ask yourself what is the point of making millions of gil fast if you have no where to spend it???