do crafting mentors know what they're talking about

[SeanCody]

half the time when i see a crafting mentor i just ignore what they say as they don't seem to know what they're talking about compared to the combat mentors or full crown mentors. the crafting mentor just seems like a way for people to join novice network by grinding ishgard for a day (which also gives you enough collectables while you level). feels kinda cheating to me compared to the insane grind you need for combat mentor.

maybe they should just make a global chat already so people don't need to pretend to be a crafting mentor. anyone else roll their eyes when they see a crafting mentor talk? I saw one yesterday saying that Hrothgars are cute and I almost vomited.

[Chie_M]

Hey man, you're only supposed to start troll threads. Don't go bringing up valid points now, it's not fair.

[MPK]

Crafting mentors don't even know crafting half the time. They just copy a macro from The Balance or something and just run it.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Getting mentor status in this game is just a time investment. It doesn't actually require knowledge about anything... >.>

[Rhus]

Most crafting mentors are just old crowns who don’t have enough commends to get the crown back after square made changes to it (upped number needed) so they all got demoted from crown to trade crown. They keep it on because any crown is better than none. Not because they’re amazing crafters and willing to offer advice and help. Most if you ask about crafting or gathering won’t know the first thing about the doh/l job

Also if this is a titan man troll thread I’m afraid on this instance you’ll probably find most agree with you. Big f my friend

[Canadane]

For once, he's right.
But I'll extend this to battle-only mentors.

The ones with the big burger king crown who have both are the ones to listen to.

[Nekaru_Infitima]

Erm. I became a crafting mentor to get into NN yeah, but I did it because I wanted to help others. I don't know EVERYTHING about crafting no, but I've researched it, practiced it and I'd like to think I could help with questions at least.

Working on getting the commends for battle mentor. But I only started this game August 2nd, so that's a WIP.

[SeanCody]

He does it every once in a while where its something valid, then it's back to the usual trash he spews. I wish he'd stay doing real discussion instead of, "cEn Wi GiT CaRdI b tO cOlLaB wItH SoKEn", since it's clear the moderation team doesn't want to intervene. He'd probably be liked, but teehee, better bump ancient threads and post spam nonstop instead.

bih u trashtalking our queen cardi b don't diss the 21st century beethoven just bc u dont understand real art...

[Packetdancer]

So, trying to take this thread semi-seriously...

Honestly, I think it’s worth having real crafting mentors, since the crafting/gathering system can be a bit overwhelming for people... but crafting mentors, ideally, should help with crafting. When wearing the crafting mentor icon, I helped gear up sprouts (crafting stuff for undergeared people in ARR, where getting accessories as you level is a complete pain), I helped some folks leveling crafters learn how to figure out their own ideal rotations (because just copying a macro isn’t the best way to learn how the system works, and means you won’t be able to come up with the right macro if your stats differ from the ‘ideal’), helped folks learn efficient ways to gather materials for crafting projects, etc. That sort of stuff? Absolutely worth having crafting mentors for.

But honestly, I think the mentor system as a whole is broken; the metrics used to earn mentor status aren’t really relevant to being a good mentor, in either capacity. Just earning 1500 commendations is relatively easy, just time-consuming, and you could do that entirely as a healer, or a tank, and have no idea how to play any other job besides your own. And earning the crafting mentor crown is similarly easy.

I wish that the commendation system let you comm people after they left, for about five minutes after the end of the dungeon or something. And let you pick a reason (“Patient teacher”, “Excellent Tank/Healer/DPS”, “Funny”, whatever) from about four or five options. Then people would need commendations that were actually relevant to mentoring folks. And when you had enough commendations, you could take a test—like a solo raid boss fight tailored to your role—and upon completing that, then you’d be certified as a battle mentor for that job.

And I wish the crafting system had something akin to expert crafting, a randomized crafting thing where you needed to actually know how the crafting system worked in order to complete the crafting task. And a similar challenging gathering task. Once you had done those, you could be certified as a crafting mentor.

(But I admit adding the infrastructure for such a thing—much less keeping the solo trials for each job balanced as jobs were tweaked—would probably be a fair amount of work, and something like that is almost certainly not going to happen.)

[Canadane]

And I wish the crafting system had something akin to expert crafting, a randomized crafting thing where you needed to actually know how the crafting system worked in order to complete the crafting task.

Have you done expert Ishgard Restoration crafting?
Because that's what that is. Mostly.