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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XIPOTATOX View Post
    You ever consider that some people are new to the game and don't have every single mechanic memorized.
    I mean, the game would be boring if a new player could come in and instantly knew every mechanics.
    Every new patch, there is new mechanics.

    The difference between BLM and other jobs is the choices they have to resolve certain mechanics. Other than that, everyone has to deal with mechanics the same way. (Ranged MUST deal damage while moving for copping for they low damage but that's not a ranged thread)
    BLM still has massive mobility tools and many moments where they don't move at all and are free to cast. It's quite rare that there is a Construct 8 like boss that requires a lot of movement for more than 10 seconds.

    IMO, a Melee will have the same amount to learn. Except they can't pre-place themselves unless they are at melee range.
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    Summoner Alt
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rika007 View Post
    Honey, I agree with you on the overall theory of your argument, but let's not gate keep here. Someone who is great on even an 'easier' job is still better then 98% of the population on this game, even if their take is wrong, there will always be room for amicable arguments. We don't have to be pricks about it.
    Unfortunately, "kind" doesn't get through to this community. Rather be a right prick then an unheard saint.

    The opinion of the inexperienced is irrelevant in the context of changing things for the experienced. Remember that. It'll help you not to make fundamentally flawed opinions, based on other player behavior, influenced by said inexperienced and a clear bias.

    Quote Originally Posted by XIPOTATOX View Post
    Massive mobility tools, which ones? The only one I can think of is that ability that pulls you to a party member and triple cast. But only one is reliable the one that pulls you to party member everything else is timed. swift cast is not a blm ability.
    Xeno, Triple, any procs, Sharpcast-forced procs, Between the Lines, Aether Manip, and yes Swift are all powerful tools for BLM's mobility. Also, just because Swift's not exclusive to Black Mage doesn't mean it doesn't count, however you managed to come to that conclusion. With proper planning, there are currently no current content movement issues for Black Mage and all of those options are entirely reliable. If you wanna have some fun, you can get up to 9 consecutive free movement GCDs. 4 from Swift/Triple, 3 from Xeno (2 stacks, one rolled over), any Sharp Cast proc, any natural proc.

    *pst, OP. See what I'm talking about with experience? And this person apparently mains the class!
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XIPOTATOX View Post
    Massive mobility tools, which ones? The only one I can think of is that ability that pulls you to a party member and triple cast. But only one is reliable the one that pulls you to party member everything else is timed. swift cast is not a blm ability.
    The way it works out is Black Mage has essentially 8 free casts per every minute of a fight. 2 Xenoglossy's. 3 from Triple Cast. 1 Swift cast. 2 from sharp cast procs. You combine this with Between the lines and Aetherial Manipulation and you have all the movement you need to handle even the most intensive movement mechanics in the game at even a Savage or Ultimate raiding level. However it does require an acute knowledge of the fight to pull this off and flat out, to get that, you are going to fail a lot figuring it out. If you see a black mage zooming all over an Arena, never getting hit, blowing up the DPS, always being top of the aggro charts (or the other charts we don't name) and never once dropping a cast, lookin as mobile as a Bard or Dancer; you are watching a pro at work who has probably died to those same mechanic on several occasions to learn exactly how long and the exact inch they can place themselves to pull off it all.

    I say this as a player who played Bard for every raid tier up to Shadowbringers, then swapped to caster for the final tiers. Black Mage is a very mobile class, far more then it gets credit for. It's why I'm one of the people who say the 'mobility tax' on Ranged DPS is a joke. Once you know a fight BLM is not taxing at all to maneuver around. It's why OP's point is so off base.
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