Thread: MP next to go with 6.0 maybe?

Originally Posted by Ilenya

"Most of scholar's capabilities weren't significantly changed. However, its shield-based playstyle has been shifted to include more direct healing, and makes it easier for scholar to focus more on a heal-oriented playstyle. Instead of focusing on dealing damage while relying on the other healer to provide healing, both healers will be able support each other in the healing role. Additionally, Embrace can no longer be used repetitively, as we’d like to move away from using macros to repeatedly cast Embrace."

This was a direct quote in the lead-up to Shadowbringers about how they were changing SCH. It's sitting here implying that SCH at the time weren't healing, even though SCH were through oGCD skills all the time. I stand by what I said about them not being aware of how we play the jobs, because this sure didn't sit well with me as an outlook on healers.

Yeah, they uh, don't know how to make people play SCH correctly. With the whole, taking away Energy Drain, but then adding it back in, the whole taking it away was an attempt at making people play SCH somewhat more correctly by limiting their options. There are sooooooo painfully many SCHs that do not use their oGCD heals like Indom, because their reasoning is, "My co-healer can take care of AOE heals, I'm green DPS." Basically save none of their aetherflow stacks for raid wides > cost the other healer GCD damage > lower raid DPS. Whomp, whomp. Seen it so many times, that I actually praised the SCH changes... save for them getting rid of Shadowflare and condensing DOTs.

I can agree though, whenever they talk in interviews, they always seem to be focusing on the wrong skills. Like, Embrace macros, really? That's what they choose to talk about? lol, that wasn't the issue ever.

As for the OP, I don't think they'll get rid of MP. It'd be really surprising. Good resource management is basically what allows carries in the more casual content. People talk about it as a Raise limiter, but it's also an AOE heals limiter, because while proper mapping of oGCD heals lets healers basically abuse past raid wide checks, they aren't always enough. That and, if they did remove MP limitations, it'd make solo healing a lot easier.

Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Yeah, they uh, don't know how to make people play SCH correctly. With the whole, taking away Energy Drain, but then adding it back in, the whole taking it away was an attempt at making people play SCH somewhat more correctly by limiting their options. There are sooooooo painfully many SCHs that do not use their oGCD heals like Indom, because their reasoning is, "My co-healer can take care of AOE heals, I'm green DPS." Basically save none of their aetherflow stacks for raid wides > cost the other healer GCD damage > lower raid DPS. Whomp, whomp. Seen it so many times, that I actually praised the SCH changes... save for them getting rid of Shadowflare and condensing DOTs.

I can agree though, whenever they talk in interviews, they always seem to be focusing on the wrong skills. Like, Embrace macros, really? That's what they choose to talk about? lol, that wasn't the issue ever.

As a SCH main, my main issue with the lack of Energy Drain was a lack of Aetherflow dumps in case it was back up and you needed it for the MP. Wasting Lustrates on a full health person is...Not fun, and if everything else is on cooldown, there wasn't a lot you could do but just sit on it for a while. Lilies sort of have this issue as well, but to a lesser extent since they come up automatically and aren't tied to WHM's MP recovery.

Before we got Energy Drain back I was thinking of having a proper Aetherflow dump skill, where you used 1 Aetherflow to gain 20 Fae Gauge, and nothing else. Obviously they didn't go that route, but it'd stop the "Burn Aetherflow on DPS" issues some people seem to have, while still making it so that you don't have to sit on an off-cooldown Aetherflow waiting to actually use your stacks.