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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Given how ARR unlocks flying, I think it would make sense if subsequent expansions have both aether currents and ARR-style unlock as options.

    ARR - complete 2.0 MSQ and unlock flying in all zones.
    Subsequent expansions - do quests/aether currents to unlock flying sooner/individually per zone as you do MSQ or wait until you complete 3.0/4.0/5.0/etc MSQ to unlock flying for all associated zones.
    The only reason ARR unlocked it right away, is because the ARR zones weren't designed with aether currents. It was easier to just have it unlock with the MSQ, than to add aether currents to 16 zones.

    Pathfinder jokes aside (really, compared to that system, the XIV one is a godsend), is it really too much to ask to do 4 quests (clearly labeled with a blue + icon) and using the Aether Compass every now and then while going through the initial MSQ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    The only reason ARR unlocked it right away, is because the ARR zones weren't designed with aether currents. It was easier to just have it unlock with the MSQ, than to add aether currents to 16 zones.

    Pathfinder jokes aside (really, compared to that system, the XIV one is a godsend), is it really too much to ask to do 4 quests (clearly labeled with a blue + icon) and using the Aether Compass every now and then while going through the initial MSQ?
    Oh, I don't mind the aether currents, and like I said, it unlocks flying faster in some cases. That said, it makes it more consistent if there is the same option as ARR. Also, on some characters, I don't want to do side quests, and I think it'd be nice if there is an option not to have to do them.
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    Egil Vairemont
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    Avoiding all combat is a reward, not a privilege.
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    Oneiron Tantalus
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    Avoiding all combat is a reward, not a privilege.
    I'll entertain that design philosophy, although it still doesn't remedy the aether current mechanic's redundancies:

    - You can simply level high enough to avoid all combat in a zone
    - You are already rewarded with flight, to have it disabled in later content
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    Quote Originally Posted by forumaccount View Post
    I'll entertain that design philosophy, although it still doesn't remedy the aether current mechanic's redundancies:

    - You can simply level high enough to avoid all combat in a zone
    - You are already rewarded with flight, to have it disabled in later content
    - You have to be at least eleven levels above the red mobs to avoid them in the first place and there's no way you're avoiding them outside of sneak and...actually avoiding them.
    - It's disabled because you are not meant to go there in the story yet. Your mount speed also drops to barely a sprint upgrade which makes flying painfully slow and you wouldn't get a speed boost until completing a certain quest on the map anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    - You have to be at least eleven levels above the red mobs to avoid them in the first place and there's no way you're avoiding them outside of sneak and...actually avoiding them.
    - It's disabled because you are not meant to go there in the story yet. Your mount speed also drops to barely a sprint upgrade which makes flying painfully slow and you wouldn't get a speed boost until completing a certain quest on the map anyway.
    - The avoiding combat as a reward design philosophy is still contradicted even if you can only avoid most of the mobs. I don't know what you're talking about by the way, I was leveled enough to not have to fight a single zone mob in the first zone I did at least.
    - As I've stated in thread, there are many other ways to restrict area access without disabling an already unlocked feature and physically slowing the player down. This is still a redundancy.
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by forumaccount View Post
    - You are already rewarded with flight, to have it disabled in later content
    No, you are rewarded with flight in ARR zones. Flight has never been universal.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Whats the tradeoff?
    Because I think the Aether Currents are good to keep you out of areas you shouldnt be in right away.
    If you wanna be able to fly unrestricted, then the map design is gonna have to change to have invisible walls or have structures to keep you out of areas before your suppose to be able to reach them.
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    You can skip unlocking them buy a skip. Goodness the things some want in this game to be sure do have nothing to do is simply amazing. They made them so easy to find now with many of them at the msq or sidequest objective locations and having to be land locked initially is a good thing. Seeing the game from the ground and the actual landscape from that perspective is a good thing.
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You can skip unlocking them buy a skip. Goodness the things some want in this game to be sure do have nothing to do is simply amazing. They made them so easy to find now with many of them at the msq or sidequest objective locations and having to be land locked initially is a good thing. Seeing the game from the ground and the actual landscape from that perspective is a good thing.
    Oh my... I really love the internet
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