Short (or not) constructive feedback to the development of the game.

[Adeacia]

Based on what I've read here so far, the complaints can be summarized as such: I don't like it because I can't make myself look better than everyone else.

[Alice_Nightingale_Odin]

Based on what I've read here so far, the complaints can be summarized as such: I don't like it because I can't make myself look better than everyone else.

In an mmorpg that is about longivity it can be said the opposite way, you dont like how some things are because you're not allowed to feel as good as someone putting effort into things by doing nothing. Effort, as with life, should be rewarded. Passivity and afking shouldnt. When you give nothing for hard work, people that want something to work towards and not just sit around leaves the game.

[hansi379]

Based on what I've read here so far, the complaints can be summarized as such: I don't like it because I can't make myself look better than everyone else.

More like your complaints about the content being difficult is spawned from apparent insecurity.

And the thing is, if anyone judges you based on how you play the game if it doesn't inherently harm someone, then they're the ones being a dumbass.
So why can we not let the players who enjoy difficulty have their piece of the cake? They spend effort trying to do the best they can, because the sense of mastery is what drives them to play the game. Why are people like you so vehemently against this, if it's literally optional content?

I honestly hope that they realise that dumbing down the game over the years has done nothing fruitful when looking at the whole Shiva(Unreal) situation, where the fight wasn't really complained about six years ago, but apparently now it's the fault of the developers for making hard content difficult.

I'll still stand by the insecurity claim, because I don't see how else this impacts your game. And it's frankly immature to get upset over what other people achieve if they're having a blast. Don't rain on people's parades, be happy for them.

Hell, you can look at threads from two years ago and they'll have much the same sentiments as OP does about the job system, and how they're taking out the feeling of mastery from a lot of classes.
They already make story content very possible to overcome. Nobody's being barred from anything.
Who's to say that we can't challenge the players who enjoy that feeling of mastery? Why do you care if someone has x title and you don't? It looks cool, which is such a great reward, just be happy that each ultimate clear doesn't pay out 100m gil instead. Now THAT's actually barring people.

I'm super tired of people not allowing space for players without the same interests as their own. What OP talked about is a reality. A sense of mastery that was designed in the game, that used to exist, has been taken away.
There are players who only sub for the story,
there are players who have daily roleplaying sessions,
there are players who love to do gathering for hours,
there are players who love to do raids.
I have all kinds of friends like this. Why can we not accept each other and try to foster enjoyment for everyone?

[Alice_Nightingale_Odin]

More like your complaints about the content being difficult is spawned from apparent insecurity.

And the thing is, if anyone judges you based on how you play the game if it doesn't inherently harm someone, then they're the ones being a dumbass.
So why can we not let the players who enjoy difficulty have their piece of the cake? They spend effort trying to do the best they can, because the sense of mastery is what drives them to play the game. Why are people like you so vehemently against this, if it's literally optional content?

I honestly hope that they realise that dumbing down the game over the years has done nothing fruitful when looking at the whole Shiva(Unreal) situation, where the fight wasn't really complained about six years ago, but apparently now it's the fault of the developers for making hard content difficult.

I'll still stand by the insecurity claim, because I don't see how else this impacts your game. And it's frankly immature to get upset over what other people achieve if they're having a blast. Don't rain on people's parades, be happy for them.

Hell, you can look at threads from two years ago and they'll have much the same sentiments as OP does about the job system, and how they're taking out the feeling of mastery from a lot of classes.
They already make story content very possible to overcome. Nobody's being barred from anything.
Who's to say that we can't challenge the players who enjoy that feeling of mastery? Why do you care if someone has x title and you don't? It looks cool, which is such a great reward, just be happy that each ultimate clear doesn't pay out 100m gil instead. Now THAT's actually barring people.

I'm super tired of people not allowing space for players without the same interests as their own. What OP talked about is a reality. A sense of mastery that was designed in the game, that used to exist, has been taken away.
There are players who only sub for the story,
there are players who have daily roleplaying sessions,
there are players who love to do gathering for hours,
there are players who love to do raids.
I have all kinds of friends like this. Why can we not accept each other and try to foster enjoyment for everyone?

This was a really well made reply. I think that really sums up a lot of my feelings around these issues. Deleted a reply I posted at the same time as this was a better one. Thank you