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    Is this a troll thread?
    Honestly, as much as I like the HP universe, J.K doesn't even write that well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    Is this a troll thread?
    Honestly, as much as I like the HP universe, J.K doesn't even write that well.
    I use to love the harry potter books and read them as a kid. But even back then I knew bad writing when I saw it and those books were filled with them. If anyone needs examples I can give four off the top of my head just from "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone" alone:
    Quote Originally Posted by Pg_15
    He bent his great, shaggy head over Harry and gave him what must have been a very scratchy, whiskery kiss.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pg_112
    And the fleet of little boats moved off all at once, gliding across the lake, which was as smooth as glass.
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    The entrance hall was so big you could have fit the whole of the Dursley’s house in it
    Quote Originally Posted by Pg_201
    “It’s an invisibility cloak,” said Ron, a look of awe on his face.
    Then there is issues like...
    • Harry and Ginny’s relationship.
    • Hermione and Ron's relationship.
    • Dumbledore always being either an incompetent good guy or he’s just a straight up bad guy.
    • Voldemort is pretty much an idiot in the grand scheme of things.
    • Ron being useless after Book 1.
    There is more but suffice to say that while I still have fond memories of reading those books as a kid but as a author of a published book myself I can see that they're ultimately just poorly written stories which should have been proofread and rewritten at the end of the day. But since they sold well I guess this style just works for her series of books. So to each their own.
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    The thing is 1.0 where it ended was headed in a great direction imo....

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    The tropes she leans on in her stories aren't too far off from what FFXIV itself embraces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The tropes she leans on in her stories aren't too far off from what FFXIV itself embraces.
    Maybe the tropes would still be the same, but at least the writers we do have actually do research and not just surface layer of said subject. Let alone not being anywhere near as racist or any of the various other things JK has going against her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Maybe the tropes would still be the same, but at least the writers we do have actually do research and not just surface layer of said subject. Let alone not being anywhere near as racist or any of the various other things JK has going against her.
    Oh dear, here comes out this nonsense. Do you genuinely believe the Japanese writers in this game are all kinds of woke? She is woke herself, just not to the even more transparently stupid degree some of her 'critics' are.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Maybe the tropes would still be the same, but at least the writers we do have actually do research and not just surface layer of said subject. Let alone not being anywhere near as racist or any of the various other things JK has going against her.
    Everyone is racist/sexist/homophobic/whatever the next made up word is according to those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Everyone is racist/sexist/homophobic/whatever the next made up word is according to those people.
    No.
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    No.
    Thank you.
    If you think those things aren't tossed around as a poor attempt at moralizing buzzwords you've not been paying attention.
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    Honestly, I don’t want any British or American writers touching this game, and I say that as an American. It would be generic and cliche and completely lack depth. And the characters would become stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Honestly, I don’t want any British or American writers touching this game, and I say that as an American. It would be generic and cliche and completely lack depth. And the characters would become stock.
    There's plenty of skilled British and American writers, though. It's not like the writers for FFXIV don't lean on generic and cliche tropes that are lacking in depth. Just look at the utter lack of meaningful, lasting consequences for the protagonists in 5.3 - compared to how ARR and HW had many consequences to deal with and things did not always wrap up in a neat little bow.

    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Maybe the tropes would still be the same, but at least the writers we do have actually do research and not just surface layer of said subject. Let alone not being anywhere near as racist or any of the various other things JK has going against her.
    She's innocent until proven guilty and Twitter mob outrage is not a court of law no matter what some may seek to bring about.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 10-30-2020 at 07:43 AM.

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