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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    A case could've been made for Magnai.....before Y'shtola murderstabbed his heart.
    He’s out of her league anyways. She’s better off with that future fur coat dude on the First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Those are western values you're trying to insert in a Japanese game MADE by Japanese devs INSIDE a Japanese community.
    Inserting a black character or with certain sexualities to represent a group of people that lack confidence and are in dire need of representation in every single corner IS NOT something the Japanese care or believe in.
    Also labeling folks that may want this as people who "lack confidence and are in dire need of representation" is very narrowminded. People aren't just black n white with these things.

    Are these western values? Yes. Is it a Japanese game? Yes. But is I'm made for a global audience? Sure is. So imo that isn't out of line at all. The devs have already shown they care about that sort of thing with making things like dresses unisex
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    I’d just be happy with any future main characters that doesn’t have snow white hair.
    That’s all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoroCookies View Post
    I’d just be happy with any future main characters that doesn’t have snow white hair.
    That’s all.
    Graha broke the mold lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Graha broke the mold lol
    I need more than Ghraha. :/
    A likable character I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Also labeling folks that may want this as people who "lack confidence and are in dire need of representation" is very narrowminded. People aren't just black n white with these things.

    Are these western values? Yes. Is it a Japanese game? Yes. But is I'm made for a global audience? Sure is. So imo that isn't out of line at all. The devs have already shown they care about that sort of thing with making things like dresses unisex
    I find his sexuality comment a tad odd since Japanese anime is filled with gay and trans characters. Ayame Sohma and Steel Angel Kurumi come to mind. Lots more where that came from. Ayame may be more pansexual than anything, but clearly not straight.
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  7. #327
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoroCookies View Post
    I need more than Ghraha. :/
    A likable character I guess.
    Hey Graha is cool. But I get ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roflcopter View Post
    I find his sexuality comment a tad odd since Japanese anime is filled with gay and trans characters. Ayame Sohma and Steel Angel Kurumi come to mind. Lots more where that came from. Ayame may be more pansexual than anything, but clearly not straight.
    Ok yeah the sexuality part I'd say was off considering relationships aren't all that prominent in general in xiv. I don't think of Thancred as a straight dude. I think of him as a badass lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Ok yeah the sexuality part I'd say was off considering relationships aren't all that prominent in general in xiv. I don't think of Thancred as a straight dude. I think of him as a badass lol
    He is probably as unambiguously straight as you can get though. Although, he always comes off more as a badass dad than anything else. Urianger is just the super awkward straight dude. Estinien… Not sure on that one. Gra’ha and Alphinaud seem to crush on the guy pretty hard and he doesn’t seem to mind.
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    Last edited by Roflcopter; 03-31-2022 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roflcopter View Post
    He is probably as unambiguously straight as you can get though. Although, he always comes off more as a badass dad than anything else. Urianger is just the super awkward straight dude. Estinien… Not sure on that one. Gra’ha and Alphinaud seem to crush on the guy pretty hard and he doesn’t seem to mind.
    Ehh I'd say that's a bad read. Graha is a fanboy of Esti and us. Alphy is more little brother. Well imo anyways
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