Disappointed by last housing rush

[Ravenblade1979]

Truth is, right now you thinks relocation is unfair, that is only because you don’t have a house at the moment.
Once you have a plot and it is highly it is not an ideal location, you will ask for the ability to relocate.
Every major plot release, you will be one of the people trying to login to see if you can move to a better location.
Of course, there will be people claiming that they have a house and they are not interest in relocation, but these people lack of credibility.
I personally I don’t even trust any words from these people on the high horse
If there is a chance they will relocate.
People need to be realistic and logically and stop chewing on ideas that challenge other people’s freedom.
It doesn’t work that way because NA and EU mostly established on personal freedom and right.
Take way people’s right to relocate and grandfathered houses obtained legally will never works; even CN, JP, and KO regions will never support such ideas

What freedoms am I infringing on? A recommendation to ungrandfather peoples extras is because there were and probably still are people who own whole wards. How is this fair to the players who want housing. 28 of those plots can be freed up for that. The current rule is 1 personal and 1 fc per player per world per service account. It was unfair to grandfather in peoples extras and show therest of the playerbase they are excluded from what the rest have no choice but to follow.

I actually didnt move either of my plots. First thing is I sleep at night and when maintenance is done I'm still asleep. I am not waking up to take a brand new plot causing my old one with the hidden timer to open thereby defeating the purpose.

Suspending relocation for a short amount of time when new wards open wont kill anyone. It's not a perfect solution but just might have the cry die down a bit. People like you who are highly against intellectual suggestions meant to help the general playerbase are the ones I dont trust. You are the sort who are all about what you want.

If you already got a house and a fc house then leave open plots to those who dont have. They pay their sub too. They want to partake of the housing aspect like we do. Instead they get people who only care about what they want while stepping on those without.

How was that told to me. "Dog eat dog" and it's sad this community has that mindset. Theres no helping each other anymore. I see more toxic, a 11 month ongoing phishing scam, consistent stuff that's not right in limsas with people who frankly should have been banned ages ago.

I know I dont control people but Aether doesnt have a good rep and its general established playerbase is why. I know people who leave aether who end up happier. That says alot about this data center

[TwistedTea]

A recommendation to ungrandfather peoples extras is because there were and probably still are people who own whole wards. How is this fair to the players who want housing. 28 of those plots can be freed up for that.

28 plots is insignificant given the player populations on each server. Secondly, the people who were grandfathered in with multiple personals did so at a time when the rules permitted such a thing. If they lose their personals to autodemo, they will never get those back. Rather than asking for SE to take away things from people who played by the rules, ask SE instead to fix the fundamental issue;that there's a severe shortage of persistent ward housing.

The current rule is 1 personal and 1 fc per player per world per service account.

This is incorrect. You can own 1 personal and 8 FC houses per server. Also, there's a distinction between purchasing from the placard and inheriting FC houses.

Here we have a GM response to a ward owner who reported themselves to the GM for owning multiple FC houses:

https://imgur.com/BQRSzbV

Blame SE for choosing to go with persistent ward housing rather than fully instanced housing so that every player could have a house.

Given that SE has consistently doubled down on the persistent ward housing, the best we can hope for is making apartments upgradeable for gil to condos/penthouses with balconies for gardening and workshop access.

When autodemo resumes, improved apartments would go a long way to reduce the demand on ward housing for many servers.

[KadaRemnant]

Maybe it's asking to much but maybe people should be more selfless and think that some players would be happy with any houses because they don't have none. Some should share so others can have something too. It would make a better community. But i know, human beings. Sadly.

[Catstab]

people should be more selfless and think that some players would be happy with any houses because they don't have none.

Again, relocators didn't take houses from first timers.

The new wards brought 720 new houses. If 400 people relocate, that leaves 320 houses in new wards, and 400 in old wards. 400+320 = 720, so no houses are consumed by relocating.

If anything, relocations increase access to housing for new players. 72 of the 720 new houses are larges, costing 40-50 million gil each. It is unlikely that a first-time home buyer has 50 million gil available. So changing these 72 open larges into 72 more open smalls actually helps first-time buyers.

[Penthea]

Again, relocators didn't take houses from first timers.

The new wards brought 720 new houses. If 400 people relocate, that leaves 320 houses in new wards, and 400 in old wards. 400+320 = 720, so no houses are consumed by relocating.

If anything, relocations increase access to housing for new players. 72 of the 720 new houses are larges, costing 40-50 million gil each. It is unlikely that a first-time home buyer has 50 million gil available. So changing these 72 open larges into 72 more open smalls actually helps first-time buyers.

This doesn't mean much to someone who can't get a house because of the placard timer. I don't agree with suspending relocation but I understand the problem it presents to first time buyers who aim to buy in new wards so they can avoid the placard timer.

[LaylaTsarra]

This doesn't mean much to someone who can't get a house because of the placard timer. I don't agree with suspending relocation but I understand the problem it presents to first time buyers who aim to buy in new wards so they can avoid the placard timer.

Timers should be suspended when new wards are released so they don't put an extra burden on the community. That could be just for the day of the initial release given on most servers they are all sold out within the first hour. Relocation is one of the better features in my opinion and the relocation doesn't come free given the return on the initial purchase doesn't amount to a whole lot.

[Penthea]

Timers should be suspended when new wards are released so they don't put an extra burden on the community. That could be just for the day of the initial release given on most servers they are all sold out within the first hour. Relocation is one of the better features in my opinion and the relocation doesn't come free given the return on the initial purchase doesn't amount to a whole lot.

That's actually a good suggestion but I do worry if shell fcs would also take advantage of this. Though I suppose they would be hampered severely by the crazy amount of competition that happens when new wards are released. Anyway it's not really possible to present a flawless solution when you're dealing with a system as flawed as the wards. I think more good than bad would happen with your suggestion.

[Catstab]

Timers should be suspended when new wards are released so they don't put an extra burden on the community. That could be just for the day of the initial release given on most servers they are all sold out within the first hour. Relocation is one of the better features in my opinion and the relocation doesn't come free given the return on the initial purchase doesn't amount to a whole lot.

The new wards were released with no timers.

Unless what you're suggesting is that the timer just not take effect on patch day, meaning that any abandoned house could be purchased instantly for the duration of the day. This would likely cause an increase in second hand sellers, since people could claim a house, then demand a ransom to release it so a first timer purchaser could take it over. This practice was commonplace before the timer was patched in.

[wandy0385]

placard timing, at least 5 hours is long enough for us, players who really play this game !! We have real life out there, please short our time in front of the placard, because we not be there all the time, and will only give the "housing mafia" BOT a chance to win !!

SE can place timer when are we can start to wait for that !! tell us from that placard, one day after that when plot are start open to sell.. and we just wait between 5 hour..

or SE can make that more fun like "jumbo cactpot golden saucer" system !! yeah !! we jus only wait time end and show who win for that housing plot while we can doing our daly roulette ^^
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