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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I think that might just provoke another internet argument.
    True lol we do got enough of that going on right now due to certain people who shall not be named
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    On the one hand, I think that'd be pretty cool for an emote. I could definitely see my character smoking to try and cope with some of the crap we have to go through at times.
    a) how is smoking "cool" in any way? I just pity the people willingly or unwillingly accepting dependencies and addictions.
    b) how the hell does smoking (or drinking for that matter) help you cope with anything? How does putting another layer of problems and health issues on top of all the crap you experienced provide solace or refuge?

    b) is not just about this situation, it irks me in nearly every movie too.
    Whenever the main character has some emotional trouble, what does he do first? get some alcoholic beverage.
    It's so idiotic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Asthmatic WoL says, "TIME OUT! Excuse me Bad Guys, I am running out of air. Gotta get pumped." Then proceeds to whip out a Magitek Inhaler and down those sweet corticosteroids.
    I can see it now: a totally dumbfounded raidboss, grabbing a copy of the "Law of inclusion" in order to figure out whether it would be okay to hit a WoL with disabilities.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 10-31-2020 at 09:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    b) how the hell does smoking (or drinking for that matter) help you cope with anything? How does putting another layer of problems and health issues on top of all the crap you experienced provide solace or refuge?
    Some people on a hard day eat ice cream to cope. You could make the same judgement statements against ice cream but for most people, they want their creature comforts in times of stress. Making no attempt to counter high levels of stress can be extremely unhealthy in the short term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Some people on a hard day eat ice cream to cope. You could make the same judgement statements against ice cream but for most people, they want their creature comforts in times of stress. Making no attempt to counter high levels of stress can be extremely unhealthy in the short term.
    If they eat ice cream until an addiction sets in and they risk their health by obesity: yes the same criticism applies.

    People need to realize that a hard day is what it is and stress is what it is. Instead of trying to "cope" with the stress, they need to work on mitigating it's appearance in the first place. That's the only sustainable way of tackling such a problem.
    Your "creature comforts" won't help your body if you continuously overexert yourself both mentally and physically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    If they eat ice cream until an addiction sets in and they risk their health by obesity: yes the same criticism applies.

    People need to realize that a hard day is what it is and stress is what it is. Instead of trying to "cope" with the stress, they need to work on mitigating it's appearance in the first place. That's the only sustainable way of tackling such a problem.
    Your "creature comforts" won't help your body if you continuously overexert yourself both mentally and physically.
    So like, you ever gone to work, and while they're flushing the sanitation tanks in your building, one of your stressed out co-workers goes to what's supposed to be a cordoned off bathroom and commit suicide? Cause that's pretty common in the military, including other things like guys throwing themselves into propeller blades that are at speed.

    You go home early from that, cause command thinks you need the day off to de-stress. You find your wife fucking some rando in your bed. Guess you shoulda just done better at mitigating the appearance of your stressors, huh?

    No one gets to control the stressors that are placed against them in life 100% That is an asinine presumption to work with. Humans need coping mechanisms of varying degrees for varying levels of stress.

    The stress placed on the body by nicotine addiction or psychological dependency on alcohol and other similar drugs is incredibly bearable, particularly because they take your mind off your troubles. Yes, this can be problematic and ruin lives, but life can and will ruin itself with or without these comforts.

    It's easy to look down on someone who lives with dependency on such things, but until you know exactly what they're dealing with, you really shouldn't judge. No one handles pain or stress the same way, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    If they eat ice cream until an addiction sets in and they risk their health by obesity: yes the same criticism applies.

    People need to realize that a hard day is what it is and stress is what it is. Instead of trying to "cope" with the stress, they need to work on mitigating it's appearance in the first place. That's the only sustainable way of tackling such a problem.
    Your "creature comforts" won't help your body if you continuously overexert yourself both mentally and physically.
    Unfortunately we don't live in a Utopia where we all get to control our sources of stress.
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    I laugh more than what I should have when I saw this post ^^ Let's continue the none sense

    Ok smoking is bad. But hey! we kill people on a daily basis in this game. And I'm pretty sure that murder is more "murdery" than smoking. So if you want to prevent a smoking emote because it's bad, let's begin with removing all the murders we commit every 3 minutes.

    So, either add smoking, or rework the entire game to remove all the murder committed by the WoL!
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    Last edited by Darkmoonrise; 10-29-2020 at 07:38 PM.

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    Honestly, I'd prefer a tea sipping emote over this. Smoking and drinking don't fit my character at all, but again I wouldn't care if this emote were actually implemented. I just wouldn't use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    With NPCs being able to smoke, isn't it time to give the players that ability as well? With tobacco products already being in the game, it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to expand on that a little. In the story, we live in an age of poverty, greed, violence... destruction. Indeed Shadowbringers is about genocide itself, so why should we fear a little virtual tobacco when the stakes are so high? This being a video game, it would purely be a safe aesthetic choice should the player wish to choose to partake in it.

    As many players have put it, the true endgame is glam, and smoking can be an extension of that.
    I'd love an emote that allow the player character to pull out a pipe and blow bubbles (instead of smoke). I think it's a good compromise between smoking/anti-smoking emote crowds.
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    How about no support for this. I didn't even care for it when I saw an NPC doing it.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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