Stats in FFXIV / Base Damage

[ValcKyard]

Hi

I successfully got 409 STR last night using triple meld gloves and a triple meld demilune bhuj. Problem being there is no way to overcome such a low base stat for a weapon. I got ifrit's axe and there is no way to make a better weapon. Which is sad since BSM purpose is to make weapons and there is no way to make better weapon than the drops no matter what i do.

I know there is a cap is what make my weapon being useless since i cant add more damage and if i use the axe over the gloves to get to the cap well the base damage is too low so ill end up doing less dmg than using ifrit's axe naked.

I dont know if there is a plan to fix this or any gear made by a BSM will stay useless exept for spiritbounding ~.~

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[Brannigan]

You think a normal quality axe with some skittles attached to it should best a battle axe won from the lord of inferno? Nonsense!

[Seirra_Lanzce]

stack 2 more you could get better than ifrit no? :P

[Keftenk]

Aren't stat caps directly connected with the weapons damage value? So, 409 would make you far, far, far over the cap, no?

[KumaAkuma]

Aren't stat caps directly connected with the weapons damage value? So, 409 would make you far, far, far over the cap, no?

yes .

[Keftenk]

yes .

Alright...soo, make attack gloves instead? It's not like you spent much on STR gloves with how cheap STR materia is...

Or...don't complain? Iunno, you have IA...so... /shrug

[KumaAkuma]

1) Make sure your acc is okay.
2) Cap primary stat.
3) Cap secondary stat.
4) Attack

[Enfarious]

1) Make sure your acc is okay.
2) Cap primary stat.
3) Cap secondary stat.
4) Attack

I'd change this order, and for melee classes in general:
1) Acc (hitting as hard as possible means fk all if you don't land a hit)
2) Attk
3) Primary (Str imo should always be viewed as Pri, since melee's benefit directly from STR since it also gives attk)
4) Secondary

Before you jump on that, it has some real numbers behind it, I won't say my test set is massive but. Fighting Stullenworm me and a 50 DRG friend of mine over 3 fights he consistently did ~10% more dmg from AA and ~5% more on every WS, I tossed Crits and just went w/ normal hits since crits are just an increase on normal damage anyway.

My Str > his by 15
My Pie > his by 28
My weapon bdmg > hit by 22
His attk > mine by 35

His 35 attk outshone my everything else. So yes you can make a standard weapon better than an Ifrit's because at the end of the day reaching the attk<>def cap has more impact than having a 200dmg weapon vs a 150 dmg weapon. Your Pri/Sec stats have an impact, and it's noticable but not nearly as much as the impact that attk has.
You may or may not have looked through other testing threads and seen that more often than not it's found that a level 1 weapon can keep up with(won't outshine) a level 50 weapon if you attk>pri>sec stats are all up to snuff. Not unlike the brokenish def/vit/mnd that makes running in naked not hurt nearly as much as it should.

[Skies]

You think a normal quality axe with some skittles attached to it should best a battle axe won from the lord of inferno? Nonsense!

Indeed, it has to be a High Quality one. Although I think that by the third materia even a NQ one should be getting better, though.

[ValcKyard]

It dosent really matter if its a HQ one or not still there is no way to compensate for the base dmg lak of any of the weapons bsm does. and yea i'm way over the cap, only thing i'm implying is that honestly i should be able to hit harder than with ifrit axe naked at that point and it doesn't.

Same goes with knuckles or sword, there is no way to hot harder even with a +1. So in the end it is not really worth it to even try crafting any of this because even if you cap stats with that axe you cant bear the base dmg output of an ifrit weapon.