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    Make PvP unlock part of the MSQ. Give us the 5.3 treatment

    Okay so as a longtime player, and avid mmorpg fan of many years I understand that the pvp in this game needs many things aside from this alone.Honestly speaking the core issue is the lack of players leading to long Q times, and all to often I meet people who don't even know there is pvp in this game.

    The current unlock method is very 1.0 easy to miss. Even from a Lore perspective PvP is explained that after the empire is dealt with Limlominsa will continue to raid, the black shroud will protect its lands, and Uldath will focus on it's commence first and foremost. With where the story is going I think making the unlock "A pup no longer" would be the bare minimum of taking a step in the right direction for both world building, and helping this desperate part of the community.

    I understand the devs are focusing on PVE, and PVP is the last thing on their minds but please just treating it like The Crystal Tower & My Little Chocobo throw us a spot on the MSQ. Players logging in to see that blip on the top left spot of the screen would literally change Q times overnight.
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    I think at this point, even the Crystal Tower and chocobos have gotten more attention that PVP. And it's not for lack of suggestions -- we've been asking them to bring back 8v8 Feast, different maps, better class balance, more things to buy with wolf collars and marks...etc. etc. At least GARO got people involved in PVP for a time.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

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    Frontline NPCs are literally stands at a very visible spot at each Grand Company location where all new players via MSQ need to choose. GC
    How visible you want it to be?
    When new players are seeing the Late Allagan set that makes you looks like that cybernetic Ninja from the Metal Gear Solid is sure good enough gives new players motivation to Wolf’ Den
    Beside, old MSQ did mention PvP few times, I didn’t see that helps
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    Reeka Teeks
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    I think this is the beginning of them completely giving up on pvp, little by little less time and effort is being put into it now and it clearly shows, I wouldn't even get your hopes up for the basic of basic requests...
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    Dude I know it's really sad that something so small at least bring something back. It's not a game breaking change just an alert that is all at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Frontline NPCs are literally stands at a very visible spot at each Grand Company location where all new players via MSQ need to choose. GC
    How visible you want it to be?
    When new players are seeing the Late Allagan set that makes you looks like that cybernetic Ninja from the Metal Gear Solid is sure good enough gives new players motivation to Wolf’ Den
    Beside, old MSQ did mention PvP few times, I didn’t see that helps
    I actually like running old content and saw a massive spike, and still a better Q then post the 5.3 patch for Crystal Tower raids . This can cause a ripple effect to occur even if its for a short term its better then absolutely nothing for an entire xpack. The amount of people asking me where I got my armor followed by how to unlock pvp is disheartening. Especially while waiting for the next xpack this can really get the community active in a renaissance of a game mode that gets neglected without the devs having to throw a complete overhaul on the issue for now. As someone who played WoW and Gw2 the pvp was just unlocked or a button to teleport to the pvp lobby FF 14 really staggers in it's delivery of that. This game is so polished in other ways this little change alone would help with exposer especially with all these new players . This Dev team is amazing, and this is to help them from a player perspective sometimes you shoot for the stars with ideas when an answer is right in front.
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    I think Mahjong and Verminion legitimately get more updates with PVP. At least with Verminion, they have to go back and think, "ok, what powers should this minion have?"and then tweak Verminion so it doesn't break the whole system. It makes them go back and look at it and make adjustments.

    I feel like PVP is that meme of the guy holding the dog and behind him is that sorrowful looking cat going "pls notice me".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I think Mahjong and Verminion legitimately get more updates with PVP. At least with Verminion, they have to go back and think, "ok, what powers should this minion have?"and then tweak Verminion so it doesn't break the whole system. It makes them go back and look at it and make adjustments.

    I feel like PVP is that meme of the guy holding the dog and behind him is that sorrowful looking cat going "pls notice me".
    Preach literally hitting meme levels with this aspect of the game you hit the nail on the head
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    The thing with CT and mounts is that they have an impact on the wider game. CT has essentially become a second thread of MSQ and has to happen for certain things to make chronological sense. It's not just being made compulsory to get people into alliance raids.

    Mounts don't have the same story significance, of course, but IIRC you can't use any mounts until you unlock the chocobo and maybe there were enough people missing the quest and then sending support tickets asking why their event/purchased mounts don't work.

    The game generally takes a minimalist approach to how much extra content is linked to the MSQ over just letting the unlock NPC stand around waiting to be approached.

    If anything, players need to be more clearly told that the "plus" side quests unlock things and shouldn't be ignored.
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    OP, this is one of the response to your attempts on JP PvP fourm:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rieses View Post
    海外:運営は日本語フォーラムの意見しか重用しない!
    日本:海外の意見ばかり重要視する!
    とお互い思ってるらしい事をどこかで見ました。隣の芝生的な。
    ところで、MSQってなんですかね…
    メインストーリークエ?メインにPvPも加えて周知しろって事ですかね。
    Basically, Japanese side is also blaming Devs of listening to NA only instead of JP side as well.
    There are a lot of things they don't like but installed in game because of NA community's own issue: Free Lancer, abortion of GC, and ban of Feast chat due to NA side toxicity.
    I gives you credit for attempting with google translation, but you probably need to realize they too is blaming us for a lot of changes.
    They also really don't understand anything coming out of google translator
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