Standard : Legacy movement toggle support

[Amnmaat]

No you don't ever have to move in an arc. Standard movement forces you into it in some situations, but it is by no means necessary in any case. I'll say it again, just move in a straight line to where you need to be. That's it. I also never once said you only have to stay at the transition to be able to do positionals. If you think I did then you need a lesson in reading comprehension.

Straight line implies that the boss is only moving on the X axis when that's clearly not the case; in many situations the boss does aoes that cover its entire body as well. What you both seem to not understand is that I'm not talking about striking dummies, I'm talking about bosses that continually have mechanics and aoes; and not all are the same size either. But of course, these factors are foreign to you.

I'm ignoring your bad attempts at humble bragging about the skill needed to use legacy because it's just a humble brag and either Legacy is easier or harder, not both.

The irony, you talk to me about reading comprehension and nowhere did I say that legacy movement is harder than standard. What I stated is that for some jobs, specially melee, standard movement seems to be more appropriate, in my experience. I never said it was hard using it on melee; but like I said, I'm completely not surprised.

[Mhaeric]

I know this. What you don't seem to understand is that you need to still do an arch in that situation. As the boss moves, you also move, creating an arch.

Again, no, you don't need to move in an arc in any of those situations. A straight line is still better. A boss turns to use an ability on someone, run through the boss in a straight line to where you need to be. Boss runs over to a new spot in the arena, move to your new position in a straight line. If somehow the boss moves far enough that you have to use multiple GCD while it is moving then just move in a series of straight lines to the positions you need to be at for each GCD. Tank continually turns the boss, just run through the boss as needed. Arcs are pretty, but they're not efficient movement in a 2D plane no matter the situation. If there's a large circlular AoE that you're already out of range of but you want to move along the edge of the AoE without entering it to position yourself closer to the target at first glance sounds like a time this might be useful since if the boss is in the middle of said AoE then standard movemement makes it slightly easier to move around the AoE like this. But if the boss is at the centre then there's no reason to want to move around the AoE to reposition since you're already as close as possible and if the boss is not at the centre since you would have just moved in a straight line to the closest edge in the first place anyway. The only situation it might actually be needed would be something like the final boss of Holminster where you have to move around the boss to avoid AoE. I will grant that standard movement works slightly better for that situation. So like 1% of the time? And that's ignoring avoiding the AoE in the first place by running away from the boss with all the issues that standard movement causes to that.

I'm not against having a toggle for this, although I don't think it's needed. You can always tell when someone is using standard movement in-game because of they way they turn before moving or turn as they move causing them to move in an arc, and it is clearly a huge minority of players. And for good reason. That said, I don't even care if someone wants to hamstring their movement this way for whatever reason. The only issue I have is with your claim that a precise arc (not "arch" by the way, that's a different thing) is required to be able to land positionals as a melee. That's just plain false.

[Amnmaat]

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Your only examples are dungeon bosses? Ok, clearly I'm talking to someone whose extent of gameplay is limited to dungeons.

I'm not against having a toggle for this, although I don't think it's needed. You can always tell when someone is using standard movement in-game because of they way they turn before moving or turn as they move causing them to move in an arc, and it is clearly a huge minority of players. And for good reason. That said, I don't even care if someone wants to hamstring their movement this way for whatever reason.

Whether you think a toggle is needed or not doesn't ultimately impact the decision. Clearly it matters to square enix enough to have standard movement as an option since it's already an option in the game. What that reason is we have no official word about it, but I can surmise that they understand that all UI settings are personal preferences which should be there. Even the developers themselves make my suggestion for a toggle more valid; they themselves included standard movement. Moreover, I don't think you know what an arch is nor the fact that trial bosses are not striking dummies; Innocence alone proves all of my points, many archs in that fight; Hades extreme? Yeah I don't think you understand that I'm not talking about dungeon bosses.

The only issue I have is with your claim that a precise arc (not "arch" by the way, that's a different thing) is required to be able to land positionals as a melee. That's just plain false.

Incorrect, I never said that. You might want to actually read the statements before addressing them. Arch, arch, same word.

[Mhaeric]

Incorrect, I never said that. You might want to actually read the statements before addressing them.

specially on monk where going from back to side constantly requires a precise "arch;" specially visually.

Arch, arch, same word.

Yes, Arch and arch are the same words regardless of capitalization. Arc is the word you want.

[Amnmaat]

Yes, Arch and arch are the same words regardless of capitalization. Arc is the word you want.

Yes, very convenient to leave out the part where I said in my personal experience, within the very same sentence you quoted; nor did I say it was "required" to land positionals. Now that you have nothing left to quote we're down manipulating and quoting half sentences?

Arch and arc, you know that's what I meant, based on the fact that I was quoting you. They're both the same word, so much so that arch when used as a verb is a very appropriate term to use.