Can Pugilists/Monks Tank

[SafeOnBlock]

I was looking at all the abilities available for the pugilist/monk class and it seems they have some decent abilities that allow them to possibly tank. Problem is is that I dont have a maxed out character so I wanted to know what end game looks like as a pugilist/monk.

Thanks for your input!

[Raldo]

Can they tank? Sure.
Do people doing endgame ever call for a Monk tank? No.

I'm not going to get into the reasons why or why not to use a Monk tank. That's like opening the whole PLD vs WAR can of worms.

[SafeOnBlock]

Its sad to me that people are so closed minded and quick to dismiss options like that. I come from the competitive fighting game community and after 10+ years of Marvel vs Capcom and 20 years of Street Fighter II people still find out new technology.

[Zyph]

Not enough evasion to be an evasive tank, not enough HP to be an HP tank.

[Atoli]

Sure, MNK can tank, but it's by far not the best class for tanking.
Like Zyph said, not enough evasion, not enough HP/def.
For fun runs with friends it's certainly possible, but especially with pick up groups this won't happen.

That being said, in low level exp parties PUG is often the tank if no GLA or MRD joined.
And yesterday at Ifrit our tank dc'd so the MNK took his spot in the middle of the fight and tanked Ifrit..it was awesome
Granted, he lost hate at one point because the healers just had to heal too much with MNK just not being cut out to be a tank, but still...if our real tank made it back faster..

[SafeOnBlock]

Thats cool. I have no end game experience I just noticed that the monk has a self heal, taunt, and stances that emphasize defense.

With
The many attacks that can be used to stun
feather foot
pounce to interrupt
second wind
Taunt
Fist of earth

Maybe they should change presence of mind to all attacks and modify it so it isnt OP.

This is very probably and I feel would give the monk more depth and versatility as a class. I think it might be a good idea for fellow monk players to consider making a petition and sending it to square. This would also solve the problem of having to find available tanks late game and in the long run wouldnt hurt the game at all.

[Kiote]

You should just ignore people who tell you Pugilist can't tank. It's not that they can't tank or that they are not the best tank, it's simply these people do not want to put in the effort to figure out how to do it.

The fact is, PGL is an amazing tank. You have to focuses heavily on defensive skills and buy high defense armour with Tanking stats.

The biggest mistake people make when trying to build a PGL tank is thinking they can actually still use offensive stats.

PGL can tank any boss in the game, but it gets significantly harder when they have adds. You'll want as much Eva and Parry stats as possible.

Some abilities that i use include

Foresight, Overpower, Sanguine Rite, Rampart, Sentinel, and Cure.

It is a whole different style of game play. Most people cannot figure it out. If you ever want to get taken seriously, you are going to have to prove yourself. I focus mostly on Reactive Combat.

[Kiote]

Granted, he lost hate at one point because the healers just had to heal too much with MNK just not being cut out to be a tank, but still...if our real tank made it back faster..

This does not happen when a PGL is built for tanking. Melee PGLs can't hold hate because they typically only have taunt.

A PGL Tank will have Provoke, Flash and Taunt as well as Rampart and Sentinel to build massive hate.

[Kiote]

http://xivpads.com/?2225422

Select Specs and Pugilist if you want to see my Tanking Build.

[Sigmakan]

Hi Kiote,

What makes PGL a better tank than lets say MRD? What is unique about PGL that makes them better? Many of the skills you listed are available to all.

Just looking for more info!