Another year without Rainmaker Hairstyle

[NealSnow]

On one hand the nature of mmo's makes me love how I have something that atm others can't get, on the other however I also know that feeling of missing out on something cause you played after it happened (legacy intro/tattoo T_T)

I'd say though if they did ever put it up on mogstation hopefully they'd make it work for hrothergar and viera... even tho it'd look really shitty on cat daddies lol.

[Naenaewa]

I didn’t forget, lool.

Seriously though. This is ridiculous. What’s the damn deal with what should be a pretty simple thing? Something that should’ve been taken care of years ago?

[Naenaewa]

On one hand the nature of mmo's makes me love how I have something that atm others can't get, on the other however I also know that feeling of missing out on something cause you played after it happened (legacy intro/tattoo T_T)

I don’t mind it either. I don’t have the FF15 car and I want it, but honestly it wouldn’t bug me if it disappeared. Same with Garo to a degree, but a seasonal item? That’s just weird.

[Xbob42]

I've never been a fan of timed baubles or trinkets. It's just a sort of an insidious way to keep people forever-subbed so they never miss a single item. I don't mind so much for things like live events (like... with GMs and stuff, things we don't get at all) because that's live and organic content that you can't simply replicate. But random things like hairstyles? Just makes the whole thing seem kinda grimy. Make people feel special for witnessing really cool stuff that only happens once, or maybe a few times, not because they logged in and put in almost no effort to get yet another earring.

[Rshaka_Rhei]

Yeah, me neither. But the cloak behind why it has never been out since so many time is intriguing. And frustrating for those who want to get it and let's face it, there are many people that asked for it / why it's not coming out / why we had 0 information about it.

I am ok for exclusive rewards that people worked hard to get (like The Feast etc) but seasonal hairstyle ? Come on.

[itsRaziel]

I really don't understand the thing about the Hairstyle from Square, they brought it 2 Years and then it disappears for 2-3years now? sadly right when I started playing there was the rainmaker event where the hairstyle was patched out and before that, I have seen the hairstyle and asked a player about it and he was like yeah with the next event you can buy it. Good thing I still know the person bad thing the hairstyle ist not patched, mostly think the just want to add now a hairstyle section in the mog store or something like that

[Rshaka_Rhei]

I really don't understand the thing about the Hairstyle from Square, they brought it 2 Years and then it disappears for 2-3years now? sadly right when I started playing there was the rainmaker event where the hairstyle was patched out and before that, I have seen the hairstyle and asked a player about it and he was like yeah with the next event you can buy it. Good thing I still know the person bad thing the hairstyle ist not patched, mostly think the just want to add now a hairstyle section in the mog store or something like that

I don't know, I don't think there is a section in mog station for those things as far as I remember. But if not, maybe that's why it takes time. I think they are coding it and maybe waiting for more hairstyle to put in before they add rainmaker. This is the only thing I can imagine why it's not out yet.

[Shougun]

I don't mind timed exclusives, even if they're very long periods (1-2 years) or hurdles added, but in general I think actual scarcity based exclusives is just "meh".... lol. If an item is either delivered at equal or greater challenge or at a lesser challenge and time delay then I think all is well. No exclusives ever, would not bother me.

Say for example if SE wanted to open the gates a crack on PvP feast mounts they might do something like 1 to 2 years after the mount has been released (season concluded) then the schematic for the mount is added to Cid's workshop. To build the mount it'll take an incredible amount of wolf marks and other items. Time gated and still a bit challenging to acquire but not exclusive if you REAAALLLY wanted that item (especially important I think for these sorts of tier systems since it is known that it is one of those feast or famine systems, meaning when you started on the content is paramount to ease of access- making it either relatively straight forward challenge or very difficult challenge, on top of some people trying to game the system through bots). Another idea I've hoped for a while is that they upgrade their Veteran System, such perhaps occasionally you get some tokens or an item that can be used into making the purchase possible (so you might have to dedicate a large amount of marks and a item that only comes on interval making the choice to obtain that item more impactful). Originally was thinking the veteran system might get you kupo nuts (for the mog shop), in a small quantity but obviously something you could stack up over time allowing you to make a very rare big purchase or fairly frequently subsidize the cost of stuff (obviously the system being based on your subscription cycle, so a free player wouldn't be earning nuts).

Technically the cash shop is one means to ensure players can get them too, but micro transactions coming out of every which corner possible also feels bad. So I'm not eager to see or suggest everything that presents a weird challenge to be simply added to the cash shop instead like a lazy and yet lucrative fall back lol. Although I think you could lessen that negative feeling with either something akin to above (veteran system / kupo nuts with subscription) or alternatively with an active communication with your community that included a sort of "early access" vibe you get from some games, like if you look at some of how Larian Studio functions (people working on Baldur's Gate 3 and the Divinity stuff), if you gave people a strong sense of cash to feature translation it might be not as bad (like how you might see the 'good' early access companies interact with and make direct acknowledgement / incorporate said feedback, gives people a sense to their early access). While SE is not the worst at communication (some companies never talk to their community lol) they're certainly not the best (and some of that makes sense given the whole language barrier, and that talking to your community can be extremely stressful).

Titles I feel are the easiest to lock forever if they really wanted to do stuff with that, it's the most smallest glamour function of the game (imo) lol.

I think it is important to communicate clearly and as much as possible do what was said though, so if you say something will be exclusive then you should do that or prepare an apology / reason why you chose to change. Anyway... exclusive exclusive always feels silly to me, and generally a great way to push people off if they join in too late and you had something absolutely amazing under that system, but I also don't think you should rush to making something someone put a decent amount of effort in turn into something that takes no effort and gives them feelings of "why did I bother?".

On the topic of hair, if it's added back for free in game, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work on our two new races. If it's added to the cash shop though I sincerely hope they put the time into making sure it works for everyone. Just sounds awful to have that situation (in the cash shop) as you could have made a bunch of purchases, switch race through a purchase, and then suddenly have a bunch of useless items because they don't work on your new race lol. That's a big oof.

[SturmChurro]

Was it ever advertised as being a timed exclusive at the time, though? Either way, SE supposedly said they intend on adding it back in, in some form. Mogstation, if I remember right? I missed out on it for RL reasons, I actually couldn't even play the game at the time. I never had a chance to get it! It's frustrating that we can't get it, not even in the cash shop (yet)!

Ignore that I am viera currently, if I was a viera at the time they would release that hair, I'd switch back to my au ra to use it. Wish viera could just use these kinds of hairs, but that's for another thread..

[Shougun]

Was it ever advertised as being a timed exclusive at the time, though? Either way, SE supposedly said they intend on adding it back in, in some form. Mogstation, if I remember right? I missed out on it for RL reasons, I actually couldn't even play the game at the time. I never had a chance to get it! It's frustrating that we can't get it, not even in the cash shop (yet)!

Ignore that I am viera currently, if I was a viera at the time they would release that hair, I'd switch back to my au ra to use it. Wish viera could just use these kinds of hairs, but that's for another thread..

If addressing me, I just want to add I was speaking in general to the idea of things being exclusive. In a whole general sense I don't think exclusives (in the sense that they have a scarcity) are that great and would be happy they don't exist at all. Mentioning timed exclusives (which isn't scarcity based) would be fine. Similar thoughts from me on why I give no commendations to the scarcity housing based system lol. I do not care for the concept, it makes no value to me that I have something you can never have and if anything it just makes me feel pity. Alternative direction has similar negative feelings (if there is something you can't have because you literally can't get it).

I don't recall them ever saying it was a timed exclusives to answer the question- just wanted to clarify some of my post was on the concept as a general concept rather than specific to just this hair.