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    Wyakin's Avatar
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    Wyakin Cade
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    "Mobility tax" never made sense.

    -For healers AST is by far the most mobile and has the highest dps.
    -Melee are all mobile and due to fight design rarely have to leave the boss for more than 2-3 GCD's.
    -They aren't that simple. Bard for example has 2 DoTs and Songs to juggle along with constant oGCD's that need weaving correctly and can easily clip or be lost by fresh procs.
    -SMN has lots of instant casts, Rez utility and no dps penalty.
    -Ranged can't run off doing laps in Narnia. You need your buffs to connect with the whole raid, you need to be in range of others buffs, you need to be in aoe heal range and inside Star/Asylum/Soil.

    The only advantage phys ranged really has over melee is a few GCD's. Maybe 1% or so. Dps should reflect that.
    Preach brother/sister!!!
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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    Lili Reina
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    i think SMN just needs a big nerf tbh. and i said this as someone who spent most of my 6 years playing this game as smn. even during the absolute heaviest movement fights, you can settle on just ruin 2 for few seconds before you can go back to slinging spells full force
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i think SMN just needs a big nerf tbh. and i said this as someone who spent most of my 6 years playing this game as smn. even during the absolute heaviest movement fights, you can settle on just ruin 2 for few seconds before you can go back to slinging spells full force
    no one job on the game deserves a big nerf, given what the summoner was in 5.0 until 5.1 the damage he was doing was a compensation, he already take two nerfs, a 3rd n ' is absolutely not deserved for shadowbringer, on the other hand a revisiting of its kit for the 6.0 yes, but for the moment it is necessary to stop claiming nerfs and buffs when it is absolutely not a solution for fixing all balance problem .


    the phys ranged dps will always have a lower dps than the other jobs because even if the casters have movement tools they still do not have the mobility of the physical ranged dps, on the other hand I agree that the tax of dps should be much lower, and the machinist should have dps similar to a summoner / red mage.
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    Last edited by remiff; 10-22-2020 at 04:04 AM.

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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Always amazes me every few days there is a new qq thread about Mch. You must be really bored and want attention.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Always amazes me every few days there is a new qq thread about Mch. You must be really bored and want attention.
    You may want to check your eyesight right now.
    This thread was created yesterday. Some days ago someone ask questions.
    Last month there was 2 threads, one about BRD and MCH and another about the possibility of res on a MCH.
    And a month before that, a thread about the Machinist kit as a whole.

    There is also many threads about SMN, BLM and BRD. Maybe not as much, but they sure are present and popular.

    If we want attention?
    If there is voices raising, if there is concerns, then there is a problem. NIN gets a fast rework and MNK will be reworked for 5.4 but MCH had to wait a whole expansion just for a button to overheat.
    If we are bored?
    That's right, the rotation is boring.
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    Rika007's Avatar
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Always amazes me every few days there is a new qq thread about Mch. You must be really bored and want attention.
    Squeaky wheel gets the grease. You don't get changes if you don't ask for them, and the group that voice their grievances the loudest and most often typically are the ones that get what they ask for.
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Always amazes me every few days there is a new qq thread about Mch. You must be really bored and want attention.
    Says alot about MCH doesnt it
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
    -Live letter 66, 9/17/21

    Where is the ambition?

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    Zzz' Zzz
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    DRK screamed since 5.0 and today they still get nothing.
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    DRK screamed since 5.0 and today they still get nothing.
    Took two years of Bard players screaming about Bow Mage for them to drop it in Stormblood. Its' taken 6 years for Monk fans to finally get a rework. MCH is now on year three. Ninja was about 4 years of complaints till the Mudra rework. Gotta just keep giving that feedback.
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    Zzz' Zzz
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rika007 View Post
    Took two years of Bard players screaming about Bow Mage for them to drop it in Stormblood. Its' taken 6 years for Monk fans to finally get a rework. MCH is now on year three. Ninja was about 4 years of complaints till the Mudra rework. Gotta just keep giving that feedback.

    Wanna bet how many years from now WD problem would finally get addressed?

    since dev know that there're people that vow to keep re sub so they can come and post in official forum why would dev need to hurry and give the player what they want now since sitting on their hand would mean the player would pay more to re sub to post?
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    Last edited by cactuarzzzz; 10-23-2020 at 07:32 AM.

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