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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    If you haven’t notice, entire “housing crisis” is just active NA minority making loud noise on the forum
    This is not a Worldwide problem
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    One thing to take into consideration is that NA's smaller servers are still comprable to the largest Japanese one (Tonberry).
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    In size I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    If you haven’t notice, entire “housing crisis” is just active NA minority making loud noise on the forum
    This is not a Worldwide problem
    And you come to this conclusion based on your personal visits to what worlds since the new wards were added?

    Here's a quick trip I'm making to Goblet on all the JP and EU worlds tonight since Goblet is the district players go to when they can't get a house elsewhere.

    Anima - none
    Asura - none
    Belias - none
    Chocobo - none
    Hades - none
    Ixion - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
    Mandragora - none
    Masamune - one small (devalued once)
    Pandaemonium - none
    Shinryu - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
    Titan - one small (hasn't devalued yet)

    Alexander - one small (devalued once)
    Bahamut - none
    Durandal - none
    Fenrir - none
    Ifrit - none
    Ridill - none
    Tiamat - over 100 smalls
    Ultima - none
    Valefor - none
    Yojimbo - none
    Zeromus - one small (hasn't devalued yet)

    Aegis - over 100 smalls
    Atomos - 81 smalls
    Carbuncle - none
    Garuda - none
    Gungnir - none
    Kujata - 30 smalls
    Ramuh - 85 smalls
    Tonberry - none
    Typhon - 73 smalls
    Unicorn - one small (devalued once)

    Lich - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
    Odin - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
    Phoenix - none
    Shiva - none
    Twintania - over 100 smalls
    Zodiark - one small (hasn't devalued yet)

    Cerberus - none
    Louisoix - one medium (good luck!) and 67 smalls
    Moogle - none
    Omega - none
    Ragnarok - none
    Spriggan - one medium (good luck!) and over 100 smalls

    So that's 26 out of 32 JP worlds and 9 out of 12 EU worlds that don't have houses available for their players ready to buy right now. The only way for players on those worlds to get a house is to pay US$18 (or whatever they're charged in their local currency) to pay for a world transfer to one of the few worlds with houses available.

    You don't think that's a problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    There are 44 servers for the entire game.
    You mean there are 68 servers for the entire game (32 JP, 24 NA, 12 EU). That's 391,680 houses total.

    The game doesn't have 20 million active players. That's accounts registered since the game was launched, most of which aren't active. We know that the game has over 1 million active players (was announced at one of the recent live letters), though how much over that number isn't clearly known (has been estimated at 1.2-1.5 million).

    Even if only half the active players want to own a house, we're still short several hundred thousand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    However, I think the math does the talking related to duration of how long this has been going on.
    Your math doesn't do anything when it's based on a bunch of false assumptions and doesn't account for other relevant information like servers do cost money to maintain so SE doesn't want to have servers running that are effectively unused.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-25-2020 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    If you haven’t notice, entire “housing crisis” is just active NA minority making loud noise on the forum
    This is not a Worldwide problem
    Maybe it's because there's more people/server in NA than there are in the other two regions?
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    Thanks for counting my server count error. I edited my original post.

    Regardless, it still sucks goat ass for the player-base. Even if you want to go at 1 million players active, it still doesn't excuse the fact that even three years ago, we were at half the accounts with even less housing wards and plots available, and nothing was done about resource allocation or additional housing structure, or even perhaps a change in housing itself. It doesn't excuse the fact that it's essentially gone unchecked and ignored. It doesn't excuse the fact that housing isn't available to everyone. It is the same boat, it just wasn't sinking as quickly back then. Nothing has changed that the housing issue is still an issue and hasn't been taken seriously.

    Yes, servers cost money. But because they created poor implementation of resources, the player-base suffers. Their engineers, developers and IT guys should be getting paid to manage their resource allocation. The poor implementation of housing has proven that. Did they honestly believe that their game wasn't going to be successful? I doubt it with this franchise. I seriously wonder if the lack of access to something like this didn't hurt their numbers, and focusing so much in other areas scared people back to older games with proven methods that didn't make it to this game when it came to things like housing.

    So feel free to move the decimal place over a digit if it makes you feel better. 19% of the player-base has access to a housing plot in the entire game. Those are still elitist numbers, IMO.
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    Last edited by Greyhawk; 10-25-2020 at 03:41 PM.

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    They need to reduce the demand for Ward housing by making apartments a lot more special. Multiple rooms, ability to share, more item slots etc. Not everyone needs or wants a ward house. Many would settle for a duplex apartment or something along those lines. Not everyone wants to garden. I have ward houses and I don't garden. They aren't going to do away with wards at this point in my view unless they have something special planned for Ishgard but I doubt it. They do appear to be ready to add a lot more wards but overall that won't be enough.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 10-25-2020 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Being able to relocate is one of the better features in my opinion. That at least frees up a plot somewhere else. It's the timer that is the issue and needs to be fixed.
    The timer wouldnt have been needed if people werent flipping houses for absurd amounts. That's the legit reason the timer is even there now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    The timer wouldnt have been needed if people werent flipping houses for absurd amounts. That's the legit reason the timer is even there now
    And people wouldn't be flipping for sometimes crazy amounts if there were enough houses. These people have a market to exploit precisely because there is a house shortage. Every major issue with housing goes back to the shortage. The timer won't go away until that issue is addressed.
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