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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Again, if everyone does that a fate is not going to get complete.
    If everyone circles back to an undermanned fate to complete it, the fate is not going to be completed? That's some odd logic.

    One moment this community is complaining that they can't reach fates in time when other players obliterate them with BLU or with sheer numbers, but if you pull back and give them time until the last minute, that's... uhh selfish... or something. Can't win! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Lets me honest you go and let other finish the job.
    That's their choice, not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If everyone circles back to an undermanned fate to complete it, the fate is not going to be completed? That's some odd logic.

    One moment this community is complaining that they can't reach fates in time when other players obliterate them with BLU or with sheer numbers, but if you pull back and give them time until the last minute, that's... uhh selfish... or something. Can't win! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



    That's their choice, not mine.
    Lets call a spade a spade. You're leeching off the work of others so you can be sure to get credit in multiple fates. You can be sure if half the group at a fate does that those left behind to finish the fate will miss the one you are so politely running too.

    Can't stop that behavior but one can also recognize it for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Can't stop that behavior but one can also recognize it for what it is.
    I recognize that a handful of inefficient players want to stay and whack at a fate they already contributed to enough for a gold rating, and instead of accepting the consequences of their choices they are mad that other players don't alleviate them. No one is "leaving them behind", they choose that. If I could I would Rescue them to the next fate myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You can be sure if half the group at a fate does that those left behind to finish the fate will miss the one you are so politely running too.
    If only people didn't complete the second fate so quickly that latecomers will miss it. Oh wait, that's exactly what you are advocating for and I'm advocating against. Anyone with two braincells to rub together can figure out that the way to get as many players a gold rating as possible, is for everyone to get gold rating and then stop killing enemies to give others more time.
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    It's a fair point to be honest, that if people are dropping a FATE at 50% it just means that FATE finishes slower and gives people time to reach it. If lots of people are FATE hopping, they don't all simultaneously finish in 30 seconds. People will however, split off and start multiple FATEs at once in separate groups, you can't prevent that because random people in a zone just aren't going to all coordinate. Doing 50% on one FATE and 50% on the other makes more sense than doing 100% on one and everyone misses the other and I don't see why people feel that should be forced gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I recognize that a handful of inefficient players want to stay and whack at a fate they already contributed to enough for a gold rating, and instead of accepting the consequences of their choices they are mad that other players don't alleviate them.
    You mean that bunch of smart players stay, because they understand that unless someone stays and actually finishes the FATE, nobody will get any rewards at all from it - no matter how much or little they contributed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I recognize that a handful of inefficient players want to stay and whack at a fate they already contributed to enough for a gold rating, and instead of accepting the consequences of their choices they are mad that other players don't alleviate them. No one is "leaving them behind", they choose that. If I could I would Rescue them to the next fate myself.
    Then fates would never be completed with that mindset, especially if everyone followed right behind you to the next one and left and the next one and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    You mean that bunch of smart players stay, because they understand that unless someone stays and actually finishes the FATE, nobody will get any rewards at all from it - no matter how much or little they contributed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    So my point still stands, if everyone follows that logic no fate will be ever finished. In special with the scaling when a big train is around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aizuh View Post
    Then fates would never be completed with that mindset, especially if everyone followed right behind you to the next one and left and the next one and so on.
    Did you people not read the thread or is the concept of going back to the fate when necessary too complicated to grasp? Let me quote from the first page:

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If everyone circles back to an undermanned fate to complete it, the fate is not going to be completed? That's some odd logic.
    I'll reflect your own argument back at you. If everyone does the minimum required for gold but goes back to finish fates that aren't getting finished, then fates will be completed and there will be more players who get gold rating.
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