Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
was in referance to me doing dps on WAR , lol. Further example of how buffing survivability gimps Tanking aspects on war, secondly if a PLD , like myself , had crazy def/vit , it would infact make bringing a single healer to a instance ALOT more safer and probably even alow for a THM healer if surviavbilty was that efficient wich would once again up the dps. as far as doing "way more dps" then PLD in tank gear..sure it can, by way more do you mean 1k or 10k , hell even 10k on boss fight is realy low. I think the situations are reversed, you know nothing but shit PLDs apearntly. As far as doing a few runs with your LS Noc, sure, but not to steal hate, simply to demistrate how powerfull as USEFULL PLD can be.
I think your kind of missing the point in most peoples arguments. WAR wearing defensive focused gear is still doing 3x, 4x, or more damage than an all out offensive geared PLD. For PLD to compete fully against that kind of damage output in the eyes of the majority of players, PLD would need to take at least that much less damage than WAR on average and even with shields as they currently are PLD still falls very short. You also fall into the issue where half of PLD's abilities either require players getting relatively close or into harms way (Rampart/Divine Veils Regen/Cover) to receive the effect or requiring other players to get hate to be functional (Cover).

SE could compensate closing that gap by doing other things such as boosting the overall base damage of Swords. (There is a difference between being a weak DD and being a pathetic DD) They could make it where PLD was alot more self sustaining and party friendly abilities weren't so situational, such as cover boosting enmity regardless of position or threat or Divine Veil giving regen to the PLD and all party members surrounding the caster instead so players don't have to step into danger to receive the effect.

But as it's been stated numerous times bringing PLD CAN WORK, you can go get your ass wailed on by everything under the sun and still succeed at speed runs, but for the average and experienced player PLD still highly inefficient for content as is.