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    Regaurdless of how you FEEL about a job, facts remain to be facts
    You might want to say this into a mirror
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    You might want to say this into a mirror
    LOL TROLL, I am done with you
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    Ace, I don't know what you're smoking... But a WAR can still do much more dps than a PLD with only using mog axe and acc rings, HP/enmity/etc in all other slots. It also can still tank with only one WHM, while said WHM throws out nukes here and there...

    If you had no enmity gear, used no enmity abilities and just Dps'd on PLD to take hate off a WAR, you were playing with a VERY bad WAR rofl. Maybe that's why you think PLD is such hot shit, you only know terribad WARs >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexus View Post
    Ace, I don't know what you're smoking... But a WAR can still do much more dps than a PLD with only using mog axe and acc rings, HP/enmity/etc in all other slots. It also can still tank with only one WHM, while said WHM throws out nukes here and there...

    If you had no enmity gear, used no enmity abilities and just Dps'd on PLD to take hate off a WAR, you were playing with a VERY bad WAR rofl. Maybe that's why you think PLD is such hot shit, you only know terribad WARs >_>
    "lol , great come back, truth is, I dont think anyone can "suck ass" at warrior. LOL! No even with no enmity gear on and negative enmity gear , all dps stats stacked, and no hate moves used, I still stole hate off a WAR tank. Regaurdless of how you FEEL about a job, facts remain to be facts, only thing I can advise if your that butt hurt over it is, build a bridge and get over it"

    was in referance to me doing dps on WAR , lol. Further example of how buffing survivability gimps Tanking aspects on war, secondly if a PLD , like myself , had crazy def/vit , it would infact make bringing a single healer to a instance ALOT more safer and probably even alow for a THM healer if surviavbilty was that efficient wich would once again up the dps. as far as doing "way more dps" then PLD in tank gear..sure it can, by way more do you mean 1k or 10k , hell even 10k on boss fight is realy low. I think the situations are reversed, you know nothing but shit PLDs apearntly. As far as doing a few runs with your LS Noc, sure, but not to steal hate, simply to demistrate how powerfull as USEFULL PLD can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    "lol , great come back, truth is, I dont think anyone can "suck ass" at warrior. LOL! No even with no enmity gear on and negative enmity gear , all dps stats stacked, and no hate moves used, I still stole hate off a WAR tank. Regaurdless of how you FEEL about a job, facts remain to be facts, only thing I can advise if your that butt hurt over it is, build a bridge and get over it"

    was in referance to me doing dps on WAR , lol. Further example of how buffing survivability gimps Tanking aspects on war, secondly if a PLD , like myself , had crazy def/vit , it would infact make bringing a single healer to a instance ALOT more safer and probably even alow for a THM healer if surviavbilty was that efficient wich would once again up the dps. as far as doing "way more dps" then PLD in tank gear..sure it can, by way more do you mean 1k or 10k , hell even 10k on boss fight is realy low. I think the situations are reversed, you know nothing but shit PLDs apearntly. As far as doing a few runs with your LS Noc, sure, but not to steal hate, simply to demistrate how powerfull as USEFULL PLD can be.
    Took me a while to notice you actually responded to me in there. Some better formatting of your posts in the future perhaps.

    Also, sure. You've got my character name. Send me a tell in game some time. I'd like to see exactly who blows whose mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    was in referance to me doing dps on WAR , lol. Further example of how buffing survivability gimps Tanking aspects on war, secondly if a PLD , like myself , had crazy def/vit , it would infact make bringing a single healer to a instance ALOT more safer and probably even alow for a THM healer if surviavbilty was that efficient wich would once again up the dps. as far as doing "way more dps" then PLD in tank gear..sure it can, by way more do you mean 1k or 10k , hell even 10k on boss fight is realy low. I think the situations are reversed, you know nothing but shit PLDs apearntly. As far as doing a few runs with your LS Noc, sure, but not to steal hate, simply to demistrate how powerfull as USEFULL PLD can be.
    I think your kind of missing the point in most peoples arguments. WAR wearing defensive focused gear is still doing 3x, 4x, or more damage than an all out offensive geared PLD. For PLD to compete fully against that kind of damage output in the eyes of the majority of players, PLD would need to take at least that much less damage than WAR on average and even with shields as they currently are PLD still falls very short. You also fall into the issue where half of PLD's abilities either require players getting relatively close or into harms way (Rampart/Divine Veils Regen/Cover) to receive the effect or requiring other players to get hate to be functional (Cover).

    SE could compensate closing that gap by doing other things such as boosting the overall base damage of Swords. (There is a difference between being a weak DD and being a pathetic DD) They could make it where PLD was alot more self sustaining and party friendly abilities weren't so situational, such as cover boosting enmity regardless of position or threat or Divine Veil giving regen to the PLD and all party members surrounding the caster instead so players don't have to step into danger to receive the effect.

    But as it's been stated numerous times bringing PLD CAN WORK, you can go get your ass wailed on by everything under the sun and still succeed at speed runs, but for the average and experienced player PLD still highly inefficient for content as is.
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