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    mog is correct. PLD is not broken, the dungeons and boss fights offer little challange to the tank as far as taking damage thus allowing tanks with weaker defenses to successfully tank, and in turn allowing a high dps tank speed up the time it takes to win the fights. this , and this alone is the only reason WAR is suggested over PLD, hate controll is not an issue with either tank and survivabilty is much higher with PLD. one tank is offensive the other is deffensive. that simple. Claiming WAR is superior in every aspect of tanking is just simply incorrect. to state that def dose nothing for damage deflection is also incorrect. as far as magic damage gose, PLD is still the best equiped tank to avoid magic damage. these , my friend , are all facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    mog is correct. PLD is not broken, the dungeons and boss fights offer little challange to the tank as far as taking damage thus allowing tanks with weaker defenses to successfully tank, and in turn allowing a high dps tank speed up the time it takes to win the fights. this , and this alone is the only reason WAR is suggested over PLD, hate controll is not an issue with either tank and survivabilty is much higher with PLD. one tank is offensive the other is deffensive. that simple. Claiming WAR is superior in every aspect of tanking is just simply incorrect. to state that def dose nothing for damage deflection is also incorrect. as far as magic damage gose, PLD is still the best equiped tank to avoid magic damage. these , my friend , are all facts.
    I don't know if your trolling or just that dumb. Also don't listen to mog he has been wrong as much as he has been right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    mog is correct. PLD is not broken, the dungeons and boss fights offer little challange to the tank as far as taking damage thus allowing tanks with weaker defenses to successfully tank, and in turn allowing a high dps tank speed up the time it takes to win the fights. this , and this alone is the only reason WAR is suggested over PLD, hate controll is not an issue with either tank and survivabilty is much higher with PLD. one tank is offensive the other is deffensive. that simple. Claiming WAR is superior in every aspect of tanking is just simply incorrect. to state that def dose nothing for damage deflection is also incorrect. as far as magic damage gose, PLD is still the best equiped tank to avoid magic damage. these , my friend , are all facts.
    LOL

    Thanks for the comic relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    one tank is offensive the other is deffensive. that simple. Claiming WAR is superior in every aspect of tanking is just simply incorrect.
    Umm just HOW drastically different are these two jobs defensively, I'd really love to know. I mean my WAR can wear the exact same gear as my PLD and only have a small difference of about 25 defense just because of a shield and an extra defensive trait, definitely NOT a groundbreaking difference between the two without going all out double/triple melding a shield like you did.

    PLD: WAR can use sentinel, sure its only 30% which pales in comparison to PLD's 50%.
    WAR: Yeah WAR's Sentinel isn't quite up to stuff. Oh wait! Vengeance also gives WAR a 50% reduction so that's two damage mitigation abilities to cycle through!

    PLD: Well, PLD can block 100% with divine Veil and on for 20 seconds, plus random blocks that negate.
    WAR: Cool!
    PLD: I still take roughly 50%~ of the full damage though.
    WAR: Wait a minute! My WAR parries all the time too and I take maybe 0~20% of the damage.

    PLD: Well PLD has Aegis Boon which totally negates magic and physical damage for one attack and heals me.
    WAR: That's nice, WAR gets an ability called Foresight that Blocks any magical / physical attack.

    PLD: I can heal myself too with Cure and Holy Succor.
    WAR: Sweet! I have Bloodbath, Rampage, and Second Wind to heal myself.

    I could go on, but I think my point stands there isn't any real game-breaking difference between the two jobs in the tank category.

    And before you bring this point up again.
    "If a WAR is being a defensive tank, they're hurting their DPS considerably."
    I refute that with
    "The base damage of the weapon is the primary factor in damage and has the biggest influence in every DoWs overall capacity to deal damage. The attack that may be lost from stacking defense does not drastically effect WAR's DPS due to the limited conflicts between defensive and offensive stats in gear and materia. The fact WAR can stack it's VIT up to help both it's defense and physical damage only continues to give WAR an upper hand in this dilemma to make it both highly offensive and defensive."
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    Last edited by SwordCoheir; 04-20-2012 at 05:38 AM.

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