Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
I would just like to note that Mog is probably the fore most expert on this game then anyone posting right now, and although I do not agree with all of his opinions, the facts he states are facts and trying to win a debate by proclaiming your opinon > facts is ignorant. Personally, I have very little issues controlling hate with a total of +8 enmity on my entire gear, and with no HP materia what so ever I am only 200hp short that of my war in the same exact gear, and when parsed on multiple boss fights, my PLD takes roughly 10-5k less damage on avg then my war, making that 200 hp dismoly unconsequntial to the debate. I perfer my PLD tank over my WAR because I can infact replace a Healer allowing for a much better DD into the fight then WAR can do to keep up with. Simply put , both classes are fine, IF there was anything I would suggest to the devs to help PLD is to make Holy Succor instant cast, consume as much tp and second wind and put it on a 30-45 second cool down. This frees up mp for cures and stone skin.
Hmm.. Where to start. First of I'll say I mean no disrespect to Mog. That being said, I'm not gonna ride his meat either. If a person is wrong, they are wrong. I've been wrong. So has he. He was wrong on multiple accounts in this thread. A lot of it was due to some misunderstandings, but we came to an agreement and all is fine.

Now let's get to all the wrongs of your post right now:

You may be holding enough hate. That statement alone however doesn't say much. You're better off posting some parse results to get my attention. How are your DDs performing? As much as I hate to refer to it, just as fusional said some pages back, when you've got DDs maxing out their job's dps then holding hate as much as possible becomes an issue. No matter how sufficiently you may hold hate on PLD, WAR can accumulate greater amounts of it and in shorter time. So WAR is better at it.

As for the HP difference, I literally just switched between my WAR and my PLD with no gear on and no party buff. On WAR I have 3421 HP naked. On PLD I have 2924 HP naked. That's a difference of 497 HP, not 200. With a party buff, this difference becomes greater.

You say you take 10-15k less damage as a PLD. This tells me you parse since you got that information. Good time to post some parse results. Unfortunately a simple value like that doesn't hold much weight without comparing it to how much total damage is taken in both scenarios as well as how long the fights lasted. Also which bosses? Some are much more physically inclined than others.

Finally, Holy Succor. I can respect your opinion of suggesting they make it instant cast. I do, however, disagree. I would settle perhaps for PLD not getting interrupted while casting it. It is a 10s recast and a massive healing tool. PLD also has a multitude of ways to regain MP. Also, Second Wind does not cost TP.

Now, you can come into my thread and post your opinion on PLD like everyone else. However, coming here and passing off incorrect information as factual and using that to then suggest that Mog is right and his thoughts are more valid than the rest of us, which make quite the large number of people, is ignorant and fanatical behavior.