Noct I agree with everything you wrote bro, but since my war was was not 50 i finally decided to look at what their skill set was war dmg is not the only thing that is setting them apart they have to many hate gaining skills. Antagonize is a perma buff which is stupid Why does the tank class like pld not have a skill like this makes no fkin sense this basically means war gets hate just because they sneezed... Then to top it off they have all the hate gaining skills GLA/PLD does.

When MRD/WAR has 90% of GLA/PLD hate gaining skills + their own + DPS WAR was already set to be the better tank by default.

The most of tanking stuff goes in WAR's favor to much.

1. Hate gaining skills. PLD/WAR both have these.

2. Cure's. PLD has better, but war can kinda heal on its own.

3 DMG. WAR wins this.

4.HP. War wins this also

5. DMG taken. This is even to me, even with divine veil change that was not enough to make a dmg reduction difference.

6. Ability to protect party members, Sorry but collusion beats cover in every way.

Noct i know you don't want war to be nerfed, but I think it needs to be done, only 2 things need to be done to war.

1. Antagonize needs to only last something like 10 secs like Sent. That shit is just to good.

2. some of GLA skills need to be locked out from all classes like sent and rampart or change war's Gla sub to lnc so they can tank off pure dmg, cause of right now they have better hate keeping tools even w/o gla's subs.