Simple Fix to PLD

[LadySaeko]

People just plain dont know how to play PLD now is all. I come across this almost every random AF nm shout group I join. They have no clue how to kite without taking dmg, they cant hold hate "but im spamming every hate ability I got" youd be suprised how many times that line is used by alot of you PLD out there xP & their PLDs are geared to deal dmg like they ever gona compete with actual dd's. How many of you plds stacking STR/MND, VIT/STR or VIT/MND? or even worse stacking HP?

DEX/VIT xP give it a try cause if you not @300+ DEX why bother carrying your shield around?

860+ DEF
+71 Enmity
325 VIT
310 DEX
470 Magic Evasion
after buff/food no meds & none of its darklight gear

Theres my main stats on PLD and I have 0 problem with tanking and dd's arent asked to hold back. As for someone saying PLD takes same dmg as WAR lol this is not true by a long shot when your partially blocking nearly ever attack and full blocking + much higher DEF. For example last night 5 maned Great Buffalo for fun with my PLD and just 1 WHM. You partially block Onrush 1200 dmg Onrush deals 2500 dmg. At a rough glance Id say I partially blocked or full blocked 60-70% of all his attacks? Very rough guess after going through my log after the fight, but my partials happen alot. I know great buffalo is old news but it still hits like a truck & its what I most recently did checking my log after the fight.

Hope it helps some of you out there who are having trouble with your PLD ^^ obviously your shield is key, but also takes skill with timing/spacing out your abilities.

[Andrien]

People just plain dont know how to play PLD now is all. I come across this almost every random AF nm shout group I join. They have no clue how to kite without taking dmg, they cant hold hate "but im spamming every hate ability I got" youd be suprised how many times that line is used by alot of you PLD out there xP & their PLDs are geared to deal dmg like they ever gona compete with actual dd's. How many of you plds stacking STR/MND, VIT/STR or VIT/MND? or even worse stacking HP?

DEX/VIT xP give it a try cause if you not @300+ DEX why bother carrying your shield around?

860+ DEF
+71 Enmity
325 VIT
310 DEX
470 Magic Evasion
after buff/food no meds & none of its darklight gear

Theres my main stats on PLD and I have 0 problem with tanking and dd's arent asked to hold back. As for someone saying PLD takes same dmg as WAR lol this is not true by a long shot when your partially blocking nearly ever attack and full blocking + much higher DEF. For example last night 5 maned Great Buffalo for fun with my PLD and just 1 WHM. You partially block Onrush 1200 dmg Onrush deals 2500 dmg. At a rough glance Id say I partially blocked or full blocked 60-70% of all his attacks? Very rough guess after going through my log after the fight, but my partials happen alot. I know great buffalo is old news but it still hits like a truck & its what I most recently did checking my log after the fight.

Hope it helps some of you out there who are having trouble with your PLD ^^ obviously your shield is key, but also takes skill with timing/spacing out your abilities.

I don't think you get it. A WAR can do better in a shorter time.

[Stufoo]

At a rough glance Id say I partially blocked or full blocked 60-70% of all his attacks? Very rough guess after going through my log after the fight, but my partials happen alot.

Would you please elaborate on the difference between a partial block and a full block? Thanks in advance.

Also, why block Onrush (and care about the mitigation you can get on it) when you can dodge it, or even better, completely eliminate it from the fight? I hope you see how this is relevant to the current dungeons and bosses, and the situation the two tanks are in.

[LadySaeko]

Would you please elaborate on the difference between a partial block and a full block? Thanks in advance.

Also, why block Onrush (and care about the mitigation you can get on it) when you can dodge it, or even better, completely eliminate it from the fight? I hope you see how this is relevant to the current dungeons and bosses, and the situation the two tanks are in.

Full block will block the entire attack dealing you 0 dmg. Partial block cuts the damage you would have taken in 1/2 roughly. On the higher lvl NM or Boss types I get far more partials vs fulls compared to the r50-60 normal enemies because their stats are way higher I assume or like the OP said diminished results vs the higher stuff.

I take Onrush to test shield proc of partials and fulls against TP moves and the dmg I take. I normally dodge the long TP moves.

[NoctisUmbra]

Full block will block the entire attack dealing you 0 dmg. Partial block cuts the damage you would have taken in 1/2 roughly. On the higher lvl NM or Boss types I get far more partials vs fulls compared to the r50-60 normal enemies because their stats are way higher I assume or like the OP said diminished results vs the higher stuff.

I take Onrush to test shield proc of partials and fulls against TP moves and the dmg I take. I normally dodge the long TP moves.

Also, I'm pretty sure how much damage a partial block cuts is based on the Block value of your shield as well as dLv.

[LadySaeko]

Also, I'm pretty sure how much damage a partial block cuts is based on the Block value of your shield as well as dLv.

No clue xP I just go off the dmg numbers I see and its easier to see the difference for me through TP dmg which Im sure varies, but has been roughly 1/2 taken on them lol Im terrible at specifics. I'm also sorry for derailing your thread it seems peoples responses to my post are heading that way, so Ill stop posting now ^^

[stanleyyoung]

i see it that pld is not too bad as it stands right now only just a few improvments then its good. one could be were it learns another ws after flat balde that not only generates enimty+ but cone aoe. two a bit more of a boost in defense rather then hp due to the fact the mrd/war and hp tanks. and three lower the recast for sprits within to 30 seconds and maybe a tp to mp conversion ability like a few of u guys pointed out before.

[Stufoo]

Full block will block the entire attack dealing you 0 dmg. Partial block cuts the damage you would have taken in 1/2 roughly. On the higher lvl NM or Boss types I get far more partials vs fulls compared to the r50-60 normal enemies because their stats are way higher I assume or like the OP said diminished results vs the higher stuff.

Please learn how the game works before commenting on the state of a job that is in need of just a little bit more help. There is no such thing as "partial" block or parry, those are just normal blocks and parries. "Partially" is just flavor text for when things don't do zero damage. Just because you have sentinel rampart and stoneskin on yourself and it doesn't break doesn't suddenly make it a "full block". You are gravely overstating PLD's defensive capabilities with shield mitigation through complete ignorance and rough eyeballing, shields sure as hell don't stop half the damage on a boss.

The only full block you can achieve since 1.19 is through Aegis Boon. Every other block in the game has to be a 'partial block'. Takes about 15 minutes of 'testing' (more like eyeballing) to figure this out.

Even deflection only stopped 792 damage! Again Lady, partial is only flavor text.

[jwang]

People just plain dont know how to play PLD now is all. I come across this almost every random AF nm shout group I join. They have no clue how to kite without taking dmg, they cant hold hate "but im spamming every hate ability I got" youd be suprised how many times that line is used by alot of you PLD out there xP & their PLDs are geared to deal dmg like they ever gona compete with actual dd's. How many of you plds stacking STR/MND, VIT/STR or VIT/MND? or even worse stacking HP?

DEX/VIT xP give it a try cause if you not @300+ DEX why bother carrying your shield around?

860+ DEF
+71 Enmity
325 VIT
310 DEX
470 Magic Evasion
after buff/food no meds & none of its darklight gear

Theres my main stats on PLD and I have 0 problem with tanking and dd's arent asked to hold back. As for someone saying PLD takes same dmg as WAR lol this is not true by a long shot when your partially blocking nearly ever attack and full blocking + much higher DEF. For example last night 5 maned Great Buffalo for fun with my PLD and just 1 WHM. You partially block Onrush 1200 dmg Onrush deals 2500 dmg. At a rough glance Id say I partially blocked or full blocked 60-70% of all his attacks? Very rough guess after going through my log after the fight, but my partials happen alot. I know great buffalo is old news but it still hits like a truck & its what I most recently did checking my log after the fight.

Hope it helps some of you out there who are having trouble with your PLD ^^ obviously your shield is key, but also takes skill with timing/spacing out your abilities.

Screenshot of gear and stats please. What are you wearing exactly that lets you hit these stats?

[LadySaeko]

Screenshot of gear and stats please. What are you wearing exactly that lets you hit these stats?

Sorry no pic :/

Protect & La Noscean Toast with my setup gives me "delicious" @+50 DEF & +7 VIT gota do a little more DEF to hit "divine"

Alloted 23 DEX 22 VIT

Main: Cobalt Winglet +1 +22 Enmity
Shield: Kite +1 +34 DEF
Head: Sentinel +21 Magic Evasion (up to 7 busts on this dbl attempt lol so its just @1 for now)
Body: Sentinel +20 VIT (busted 1 so far attempting dbl lol again hesitant so just @1 for now)
Waist: Sentinel +20 Enmity
Hands: Sentinel +35 DEX
Legs: Felt Trouser +1 +16 VIT +16 DEX
Feet: Sentinel +45 Magic Evasion
Ear: Stonewall/Black Pearl +1 (if I can ever dbl meld helm Ill prolly go with Black Pearl for 500+ Magic Evasion)
Neck: Stonewall
Wrist: Coral Armillae +1
Ring: Spinal +1 x2

Hope thats good enough < > I'm still playing around alot with my PLD gear