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    Jinko's Avatar
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    WAR
    has higher base HP
    5 threat generation skills: (Voke, collusion, weaponskill, Flash, Dps)
    3 Damage reduction skills: (Rampart Sentnel and foresight)
    1 heal: Second Wind (
    Thats it... Thats all it can do.
    Hmm so bloodbath doesn't count as healing now ?
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    ...

    Edit: I am in NO way saying, PLD should be your main tank in CC or AV or whatever, I am saying that it IS ALREADY a very strong class, people just don't know how to play. It doesn't need a "buff" it needs you to "Learn2play" before suggesting revisions to already well balanced features.
    Others covered the rest of that post in spades, but really isn't this the problem, PLD is a tank and the answer is don't use pld as a tank for things?
    Does that not seem horribly broken?
    Does that not need some work?

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I'm sorry, when did we switch to magic resistance? I recall the conversation to be on physical defense.

    Anyway...

    If your entire basis for PLD needing a buff is magic resistance, then you should have said that.

    Everywhere else, PLD is a better, and more versatile tank.

    WAR is a better DPS/Tank hybrid.
    It was on dmg mitigation in general.
    WAR should not be the definitive answer to tanking, it should be a secondary at most, PLDs traditionally tank and tank well, this is not the case in just FFs but all RPGs that have PLD or a PLD like class. How can anyone say that another job is a better tank and not feel instantly like something is wrong.

    Shield your eyes here's some FFXI stuff:
    Are there other classes that tank? Hell yea, gods know I loved tanking on thf, nin, dnc, mnk all in XI, but at the end of the day a pld could tank all the same things and if they were decent they'd do it well, the -m/pdt gear more than making them a match for those AoE spells/attks that ate shadows and put down my eva tanks.
    You can safely unshield your eyes now.

    Really to say, wear more def, your a bad pld, or any of that other crap is just that, it's crap. PLD is broken, we all know it, stop trying to say it isn't.
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Hmm so bloodbath doesn't count as healing now ?
    I'm more worried about him forgetting Vengeance and Antagonize. Maybe that's why he thinks PLD is good, he knows absolutely nothing about WAR and thinks cover is a "damage reduction" ability.

    Featherfoot too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
    Dmg reduction has an impact on enmity reduction:
    dmg dealt == +enmity while dmg recieved == -enmity
    Therefore a dmg reduction trait would help a pld hold hate
    lol I'm sure glad knowledgeable people post on these forums to help shape the future of this game.
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