SE! Change the HW fate drop rates to the same as Bozja!!

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Was Clusterfarming for the Mount yesterday and got enough Memories for another weapon, just by killing mobs. And it didn't even took me longer than grinding HW-fates.
Don't forget that Fates/CEs aren't the only way to earn Memories in Bozja.

[Shahi]

I was killing mobs in bozja for 8 hours at least but still didn't get enough memories for one weapon. I don't know how it goes with a party because couldn't find one the whole time. Ppl just said "do HW fates". Oh well, i'm not in a hurry but it is just bothering me that doing easier, old and boring content gives better rewards. Yeah i know we get clusters and whatever else from bozja mobs but that doesn't help with relics.

[Nighthawky2010]

I prefer fate grinding in HW. Had my RDM relic weapon in about a total of 2-2.5 hours over 2 days. Very fast que times when the comes to the lvl 60 dungeons. Working on my Summoner relic now. Just taking my time & going into 1 HW a day to obtain 10 memories & the end of the week, will have my Relic.

I'm using bojza to level my PLD. I believe in a couple of hours & obtain 4 memories. 15 lockboxes that end up in 10 of them rewarding me with sparklers. the rewards were garbage.

[Lium]

I wonder if the reason they made HW zones so important for Fates/memories is because it has something to do with the next expansion. Meaning, Yoshi said we should brush up on some HW stuff, so maybe this is their way of encouraging us to do that? I dunno.

[Derio]

I wonder if the reason they made HW zones so important for Fates/memories is because it has something to do with the next expansion. Meaning, Yoshi said we should brush up on some HW stuff, so maybe this is their way of encouraging us to do that? I dunno.

I believe its due to the free trial including HW to make those areas more lively for new players.

[Conando]

They’ve also just always made Relic steps involve older content. It’s definitely an effort to get people to help out newcomers.

[HyperiusUltima]

They’ve also just always made Relic steps involve older content. It’s definitely an effort to get people to help out newcomers.

Yeah, but the problem is that the "First to 70" Buff is for new accounts, including Free Trial ones. Even if we can help newcomers, people are going to be advancing story more than doing FATEs. If anything, I feel like Bozja has been shoved to the side in favor of relic, since it's literally the easiest relic to get more than any other. It feels very disorienting compared to the other relics, which required quite a grind to get. Eureka in particular had a large grind just to get the weapon to max(plus BA runs). In general, I'm more worried Bozja is going to die out rather quickly compared to the likes of Anemos(which kept on due to its ties to Relic).

I think that changing the rates will bring people back to Bozja to do things even if there are people already in there, but it'd be mainly for Relic. If anything, I think this Relic should at least have a bit more effort outside of Bozja so as to not kill Bozja just a little bit after release happened.

[MsQi]

The FATE's have the advantage that you can do them on a pre 71 job. It is odd that they chose HW though, SB would have made more lore sense, and I would have prefered ShadowBringers so I can work Shared FATE as well.

[KageTokage]

I reckon that SB content will be involved in the 5.45 step of the relic somehow as an alternative to farming the new raid instance.

[Conando]

Eureka in particular had a large grind just to get the weapon to max(plus BA runs). In general, I'm more worried Bozja is going to die out rather quickly compared to the likes of Anemos(which kept on due to its ties to Relic).

And that was the issue. The dev team got NEVERENDING backlash for Eureka, and now it’s dead so those that, for whatever reason want those ugly things, can’t get the Eureka relics. Older relics are perfectly doable because they’re tied to leveling and more scalable things (as well as unsync’d content). They may have pulled back the grind just a bit much, but Eureka was so hated that of course this happened.