We've tried to explain why grind parties don't prepare you for the current endgame content several times. I think it's just a lost cause. If OP just doesn't like PL that's fine it's just OP seems to think PL makes you inherently a worse player despite fact tons of people they've passed in Ul or partied with have been PLed and they have no idea unless OP is handing out a questionnaire prior to all runs.
The Ul'duh Inn is like an antique shop...full of crap and always closed."You don't have to say anything, I just look at your life now and work backwards." - Black Books
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