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    I am so tired of hearing all of the apologists for this insanity. We have all heard ad-nauseum what the rational for having the timer is. Regardless of how many reasons SE gives for this idea it is still a completely unnecessary and cruel mechanic. There is a very simple solution to this which satisfies all of the issues placed forward as reasons for using this timer. Create a lottery, plot goes up people come to plot select "purchase" and they are placed into a pool to be drawn at a time CLEARLY STATED on the prompt, when the drawing happens the player is sent an in-game message or flag and they have 5 minutes to respond with their payment. If 5 minutes passes another name is drawn. Simple and to the point. All of the appropriate checks can be made prior to being allowed into the pool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyStormfire View Post
    I am so tired of hearing all of the apologists for this insanity. We have all heard ad-nauseum what the rational for having the timer is. Regardless of how many reasons SE gives for this idea it is still a completely unnecessary and cruel mechanic. There is a very simple solution to this which satisfies all of the issues placed forward as reasons for using this timer. Create a lottery, plot goes up people come to plot select "purchase" and they are placed into a pool to be drawn at a time CLEARLY STATED on the prompt, when the drawing happens the player is sent an in-game message or flag and they have 5 minutes to respond with their payment. If 5 minutes passes another name is drawn. Simple and to the point. All of the appropriate checks can be made prior to being allowed into the pool.
    And that would probably create many opportunities for people to get harassed after winning it, as I don't imagine that'd go well for the winner after getting the house... especially if you have a legitimate FC vying for the property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    And that would probably create many opportunities for people to get harassed after winning it, as I don't imagine that'd go well for the winner after getting the house... especially if you have a legitimate FC vying for the property.
    How would anyone know who won? Unless someone announces publicly that they won. In that case any response they received would be considered "solicited". The current system allows for exactly the same outcomes. The only difference is that there isn't a group of people standing around the placard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyStormfire View Post
    How would anyone know who won? Unless someone announces publicly that they won. In that case any response they received would be considered "solicited". The current system allows for exactly the same outcomes. The only difference is that there isn't a group of people standing around the placard.
    You can see the resident of the house right on the placard.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KadaRemnant View Post
    The real issue is players having stand and click for 24 hours. Come on, it's not human, it's cruel. They can reduce the timer or anything to make it more human. Unless you think it's okay to torture others.
    Which is (as we've been telling you) a function of the extreme shortage of housing availability... Changing the timers isn't going to do much of anything on that point tbh. Increasing the number of wards AND adding instanced housing, on the other hand, will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyStormfire View Post
    I am so tired of hearing all of the apologists for this insanity. We have all heard ad-nauseum what the rational for having the timer is. Regardless of how many reasons SE gives for this idea it is still a completely unnecessary and cruel mechanic. There is a very simple solution to this which satisfies all of the issues placed forward as reasons for using this timer. Create a lottery, plot goes up people come to plot select "purchase" and they are placed into a pool to be drawn at a time CLEARLY STATED on the prompt, when the drawing happens the player is sent an in-game message or flag and they have 5 minutes to respond with their payment. If 5 minutes passes another name is drawn. Simple and to the point. All of the appropriate checks can be made prior to being allowed into the pool.
    I can just see people standing around waiting for a winner to be announced only to find out that someone has relocated to the plot and that the time of the lottery at the plot that opened up is TBD.

    Like I said in my other post. Supply is the issue. NO system is going to be satisfactory to the people who don't end up with a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyanna_Elingval View Post
    I can just see people standing around waiting for a winner to be announced only to find out that someone has relocated to the plot and that the time of the lottery at the plot that opened up is TBD.

    Like I said in my other post. Supply is the issue. NO system is going to be satisfactory to the people who don't end up with a house.
    One of the most insidious aspects of this is being forced to stand around the placard and click for hours on end. There is no current provision to stop someone from relocating now, regardless of how many people are there or for how long. Another simple solution is to send a flag stating the plot is no longer available.
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