Remove timer SE

[Almagnus1]

This is precisely what makes the situation infuriating. The tech is there, SE can well afford to do this. And everyone knows this. But having the money and wanting to spend it on housing are not the same thing.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some seemingly random reason for why this isn't possible tied to 1.0's design decision that makes this far more expensive than we would have thought.

That, and I don't think it's going to be taken seriously until Yoshi-P (or another major dev) decides to try to get a house on the live service as housing probably isn't high on their list of things to fix.

As long as all we have is wards I seriously doubt they ever will.

Also factor in FFXIV's growth... that's another aggravating factor for this issue. Owning an entire ward on a low pop server was fine back in ARR or HW when we didn't have near as many players... now... it's tying up a scarce resource.

I just want the housing system to no longer rely on luck.

I think that's what a lot of us want (at least, those that aren't rubbing it in our faces that they have multiple private houses, multiple shell FCs, or are just trolling).

Ugh some of the comments you have gotten about that timer thread have been awful. You're not directly responsible for it. The most likely thing is that you and SE had the same idea.

Yeah, it's like "that was almost three years ago when it was posted, why are you necroing/linking to it?"

The timer does definitely hinder most house flipping but because the housing system is so flawed it ended up replacing that issue with another issue.

I don't know if there's really a good solution there. I imagine SE was probably getting enough tickets about some random person walking up and stealing the house, or someone deciding to peace out after the trade, that they wanted to take a nuclear option to the problem. Then there's the distinct possibility that there was RMT activity tied to accruing enough gil to get a house off of one of the the house trading sites.

However....

Having it potentially has high as 24 hours isn't helping anyone and we have seen it creates a lot of unhappiness. I think a max of five hours would be enough for it to still function as intended without players doing something as unhealthy as camp for more hours than a work shift.

This is not a good thing, and definitely needs to be looked at. Camping a house site for anymore than about four hours (let alone as long as some have reported) is not healthy, and SE should make it a priority to find a solution (like raffling off the lot) so that this kind of behavior isn't possible in FFXIV.

[Divinemights]

Both of you need to stop to turn a simple issue into philosophy discussion
If player health and bots are really an issue, a simple restriction of each player can only click placard once per 30 mins would be much simple temporary fix until SE move wards to dedicate sever
You clicked the placard and you are free to do something else and people can still free to relocate without restriction.
Players do not need to mentally bound themselves and bots will no longer be an issue?

[Leloa]

You are sounding like a needy lil baby spamming your own post. Maybe play other games or focus on something else in real life.

[KadaRemnant]

You are sounding like a needy lil baby spamming your own post. Maybe play other games or focus on something else in real life.

Go click a placard for hours before saying this to me. I am playing other games but people need to stop being selfish. A lot like me have to go through it too. People who own a house already have no right to tell us to shut up.

Thank you.

[KadaRemnant]

It disgust me to see that no one care about others. You all own a house so you don't care. We all should be able to get a house and we should not have to play rng for this. People don't realize how it is. I don't care if the reasons are good for putting a timer, it can be lower too or give us more chance or remove it. It's cruel. I've been trying for a year to get one. Are people that blind? People hate rng like in eureka but the timer is on another level and it's fine? It needs to change and give everyone a house. But more importantly, stop putting us through a timer!

[Almagnus1]

It disgust me to see that no one care about others. You all own a house so you don't care. We all should be able to get a house and we should not have to play rng for this. People don't realize how it is. I don't care if the reasons are good for putting a timer, it can be lower too or give us more chance or remove it. It's cruel. I've been trying for a year to get one. Are people that blind? People hate rng like in eureka but the timer is on another level and it's fine? It needs to change and give everyone a house. But more importantly, stop putting us through a timer!

Considering the alternative to this is a return to the housing market where you had to pay several times over a house's in game cost to another player, prayed that they honored the agreement, and hoped that some random drive by didn't buy the house out from under you. And given how much gil some of these houses were going for, there was definite RMT incentive there.

There's no good solution here. I don't like what this is doing to the playerbase anymore than you, but I'm not seeing a good idea that would replace the timer without letting all of that bad stuff come back.

That said, having a temper tantrum over people not agreeing to remove the timer is helping no one here.

[Jojoya]

It disgust me to see that no one care about others. You all own a house so you don't care.

Oh please don't play the "I'm a victim, no one cares about me" card. It doesn't gain you any sympathy.

Most of us do care (have no problem admitting that a few probably don't because people are people). Not agreeing with you doesn't mean we don't care. It means we have a different opinion about what should be done. Most of us are tired of the new band-aids that get dreamed up that only create a new set of problems without fixing the real problem - lack of supply. We want to see the real problem fixed.

[KadaRemnant]

Oh please don't play the "I'm a victim, no one cares about me" card. It doesn't gain you any sympathy.

Most of us do care (have no problem admitting that a few probably don't because people are people). Not agreeing with you doesn't mean we don't care. It means we have a different opinion about what should be done. Most of us are tired of the new band-aids that get dreamed up that only create a new set of problems without fixing the real problem - lack of supply. We want to see the real problem fixed.

I'm not looking for sympathy, the forums is to voice yourself. I didn't insult anyone but i'm trying to show what is wrong and how unhappy i am like many others but i'm like talking to a wall. I saw some solutions like instanced housing, reduce timer but nothing is being done and i am simply showing SE how their players hate this timer because they need to know. I've seen post saying everything is fine and it's not. Why players have to have a lack of sleep, take days off and risk their health for simply a house. Before anyone says that it's your own chose to do it, and housing is meant to be limited, it's wrong. We shouldn't have to do it at all anyway. It's not the players fault but the ones who put it in place. We pay for a video game to be able to get stuff we worked for but this timer is a slap in the face.

[Penthea]

It disgust me to see that no one care about others. You all own a house so you don't care.

You've not been reading a lot of posts if you truly think no one here cares about how awful the housing system is. Just because some people disagree with how the system should be improved does not mean they don't care.

[Divinemights]

I'm not looking for sympathy, the forums is to voice yourself. I didn't insult anyone but i'm trying to show what is wrong and how unhappy i am like many others but i'm like talking to a wall. I saw some solutions like instanced housing, reduce timer but nothing is being done and i am simply showing SE how their players hate this timer because they need to know. I've seen post saying everything is fine and it's not. Why players have to have a lack of sleep, take days off and risk their health for simply a house. Before anyone says that it's your own chose to do it, and housing is meant to be limited, it's wrong. We shouldn't have to do it at all anyway. It's not the players fault but the ones who put it in place. We pay for a video game to be able to get stuff we worked for but this timer is a slap in the face.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-off-on-EXODUS

The timer is intends to stop this like I said earlier.
You wont even see an empty plot.
Even if you are talking about the time when plot release, unless your login que is not like 600 or lower, the chance is you still not going to see any plot left if there is no timer.