Remove timer SE

[Almagnus1]

I didn't mention this because I don't think it has any impact on interacting with the placard. But it does have impact on loading in to zones during the race to get plots without a timer.

I'd bet that my current desktop (NVidia 2080, i9 9900K, 64GB RAM, NVME SSD) and connection (1Gbit up/down fiber) are going to load far faster and better cope with crowds than a PS4 will, which puts any PS4 at a disadvantage to me with housing simply because I'm on a gaming PC with a fiber internet connection.

In an ideal world, the entire housing system should be hardware agnostic... but I have no idea how the current system can be tweaked to factor out the player hardware and connection without making it worse for all involved.

[Jojoya]

I got a house before the timer. I lost it because i took a break. It was easier before.

It was easier before because the lower pop worlds had a sufficient supply of houses compared to player demand. Even in 2018 after the timer was added, most worlds had several if not hundreds of houses available at all times. The timer was irrelevant because there was always a plot ready to be purchased.

That's not true anymore. The player base exploded in size thanks to the failure of some MMOs and problems in others. The supply no longer comes close to meeting demand even on the lower population worlds. It's a problem even on the JP worlds now where in the past most of the JP worlds had a decent number of houses available even when none of the NA servers did.

I cruised by many of the JP worlds yesterday. I can't visit Shiro with my JP data center alts but I can visit the rest of the housing districts. I only found 2 worlds with more than 30 houses still available. Most were down to 15-20 and it wouldn't surprise me if those were filled by now. A couple had none.

The housing situation is not a timer issue. It is a supply issue. Removing the timer doesn't not increase the supply.

[KadaRemnant]

Having kept some buddies company while they were spam clicking I disagree. I think they're both equally terrible just for different reasons.

However I will admit that the timer does put ps4 players at a disadvantage because they cannot use bots. I suppose that tips it over in being slightly worse.

I'm on ps4

[Divinemights]

Both of you need to stop to turn a simple issue into philosophy discussion
If player health and bots are really an issue, a simple restriction of each player can only click placard once per 30 mins would be much simple temporary fix until SE move wards to dedicate sever
You clicked the placard and you are free to do something else and people can still free to relocate without restriction.
Players do not need to mentally bound themselves and bots will no longer be an issue?

[Leloa]

You are sounding like a needy lil baby spamming your own post. Maybe play other games or focus on something else in real life.

[KadaRemnant]

You are sounding like a needy lil baby spamming your own post. Maybe play other games or focus on something else in real life.

Go click a placard for hours before saying this to me. I am playing other games but people need to stop being selfish. A lot like me have to go through it too. People who own a house already have no right to tell us to shut up.

Thank you.

[KadaRemnant]

It disgust me to see that no one care about others. You all own a house so you don't care. We all should be able to get a house and we should not have to play rng for this. People don't realize how it is. I don't care if the reasons are good for putting a timer, it can be lower too or give us more chance or remove it. It's cruel. I've been trying for a year to get one. Are people that blind? People hate rng like in eureka but the timer is on another level and it's fine? It needs to change and give everyone a house. But more importantly, stop putting us through a timer!

[Almagnus1]

It disgust me to see that no one care about others. You all own a house so you don't care. We all should be able to get a house and we should not have to play rng for this. People don't realize how it is. I don't care if the reasons are good for putting a timer, it can be lower too or give us more chance or remove it. It's cruel. I've been trying for a year to get one. Are people that blind? People hate rng like in eureka but the timer is on another level and it's fine? It needs to change and give everyone a house. But more importantly, stop putting us through a timer!

Considering the alternative to this is a return to the housing market where you had to pay several times over a house's in game cost to another player, prayed that they honored the agreement, and hoped that some random drive by didn't buy the house out from under you. And given how much gil some of these houses were going for, there was definite RMT incentive there.

There's no good solution here. I don't like what this is doing to the playerbase anymore than you, but I'm not seeing a good idea that would replace the timer without letting all of that bad stuff come back.

That said, having a temper tantrum over people not agreeing to remove the timer is helping no one here.

[Juicymama]

I hope Op realizes people camp plot in terms of minutes and the timer helps to extend the timer longer so more people have the chance to at least see an empty plot.

If the timer is removed, the only changes you are going to experience is instead of clicking on the placid for hours, you'd be clicking on the ward npc for hours. Both still requires you to spam.

Therefore timer or not, it really makes no difference lol It all comes down to rng.

Honestly the only option that works for new buyers is an auction system.

Update: come to think of it, spamming ward npc if the timer is removed is actually 100x worst. Before at least the timer gives you some idle time when it becomes available. Where as without the timer you will have to spam and check ward npc 24/7 haha


God bless mist plot 36 opened for relocation the day before patch 5.35 (assumed the previous owner transferred to a low pop server for a mansion) and I get to jack it with 0 require timer.

[Elamys]

I hope Op realizes people camp plot in terms of minutes and the timer helps to extend the timer longer so more people have the chance to at least see an empty plot.

If the timer is removed, the only changes you are going to experience is instead of clicking on the placid for hours, you'd be clicking on the ward npc for hours. Both still requires you to spam.

Therefore timer or not, it really makes no difference lol It all comes down to rng.

Honestly the only option that works for new buyers is an auction system.

Update: come to think of it, spamming ward npc if the timer is removed is actually 100x worst. Before at least the timer gives you some idle time when it becomes available. Where as without the timer you will have to spam and check ward npc 24/7 haha


God bless mist plot 36 opened for relocation the day before patch 5.35 (assumed the previous owner transferred to a low pop server for a mansion) and I get to jack it with 0 require timer.

This doesn't make any sense. You don't have to spam the ward NPC and never did. Checking it at the top of the hour is enough as that's when auto-demolished plots are relinquished.