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  1. #1
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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
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    While I usually don't mind the WoL beeing a bit "weak" I have to agree to you this time.
    (using spoiler tags just in case)

    I was literally screaming at my screen "YOU ARE A MONK! USE SHOULDER TACKLE DAMN IT! THERE IS NO WAY SHE IS FAST ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING!"


    Though I was more mad at the second part of that cutscene where I was like, really we have trouble blocking this? How many Primals/Ascians did we kill by now? We even merged with another WoL and we still can't easily handle that?
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    Last edited by Silica-chan; 10-22-2020 at 01:08 AM.

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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Anyone else feel like SE hit peak "cutscene power loss" in Bozja?
    Yeah and it honestly took me out of the story quite a bit. These scenes are even more funny (in a sad way) if you are a machinist.

    All they had to change was to keep Mikoto within her range or to have the room full of snipers that are ready to take us out if we dont help. Which of course would make the ending a bit different since we would be more in danger..but again just keep the sword at Mikotos throat..problem solved.

    We are not alone, all the others (beside the tech girl) are great warriors..we could have simply overwhelmed her with numbers. Heck our character could have used a shield or something (we already have the animation for that) to protect Mikoto while the rest attacks her.

    Instead we help her out, create a new primal that could be a threat to the whole resistance (that we wont have to worry about because plot demands it...) and lose a big number of the main fighters..and who knows if those can be saved or not.

    Honestly if a bad guy wants to defeat us he just has to put our character in the "cutscene" and suddenly we are as weak and slow as a newborn kitten.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-22-2020 at 03:07 AM.

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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Yeah and it honestly took me out of the story quite a bit. These scenes are even more funny (in a sad way) if you are a machinist.
    Oh god, yeah. Given how it does end, it would be even more absurd on MCH than it was for us healers. Way to disempower the main character by making them dumb as a bag of rocks in cutscenes?

    I wonder if it's like the "female arm grab" that renders characters powerless in anime. Go into a cutscene, and suddenly we need an NPC to rescue us because apparently job stones all shut off.
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Oh god, yeah. Given how it does end, it would be even more absurd on MCH than it was for us healers. Way to disempower the main character by making them dumb as a bag of rocks in cutscenes?

    I wonder if it's like the "female arm grab" that renders characters powerless in anime. Go into a cutscene, and suddenly we need an NPC to rescue us because apparently job stones all shut off.
    As someone on the lore forum said its probably because they did not want to put in the work by giving each job (and race) its own unique animation...at the cost of the character feeling like they are not even there and being all weak. But just one little change and it would have all made much more sense...we would still be way too powerless but at least still within some reason..

    My character probably had to talk it all out with all the voices in her head...a certain Dark Knight one being the loudest...or maybe she just want to punch more stuff? Who knows...

    Its also quite sad how our character (and Mikoto too) has the echo and yet its never used in a situation like that...and seeing how Mikoto even can see a bit of the future...yeah really convient that it never works when we truly need it.
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    Titancleaver's Avatar
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    Titan Fafnirsbane
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    Ragnarok
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    My main complaint is that it's too good to complete the Relic outside of Bozjan. I don't mind that it's possible. But there shouldn't even be a debate about any step. It should all be faster and less RNG than outside of Bozjan. I also believe less things should be buyable from the market. It takes away a lot of the fun of grinding for your stuff when it's way more time efficient to just farm som gil and buy it.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I strongly dislike having to sacrifice whatever lost action I've assigned to duty actions because a job I switch to can't use them. They should be able to be equipped per job, especially with the restrictions they have.

    Solo encounters is another. Players are getting further in them now, but if they screw up once it's over. I can't express enough how lame this is. Is that all they can come up with to challenge players? Let them get nailed by a mechanic they have no idea how to avoid until a guide is released by someone with greater access to the fights?

    I want encounters that truly push players to use their resources, not make sure they have the right lost actions equipped. SAM lv60 quest anyone? Seriously SE. Stop punishing players with one shots. It's lazy as eff. You can do better.
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    EmoPanther's Avatar
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    Em'op An'ther
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Seems like the only way to get a solo duel is to wait towards the end of a dead instance. A friend and I had to spawn, and beat the Vigil for the Lost with just the two of us in the last 30m of the instance. But the duel was guaranteed to be one of ours! Was worth it imo. But ngl, this duel system is wack. I don't understand why you can't just pay Bozja crystals to do the fight. :/
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EmoPanther View Post
    Seems like the only way to get a solo duel is to wait towards the end of a dead instance. A friend and I had to spawn, and beat the Vigil for the Lost with just the two of us in the last 30m of the instance. But the duel was guaranteed to be one of ours! Was worth it imo. But ngl, this duel system is wack. I don't understand why you can't just pay Bozja crystals to do the fight. :/
    I agree with the sentiments of others that, reserve participants that are eligible are allowed a crack at it, if it ends rediculously fast, or up to x amount of people up until the half time mark or something. Had a friend get in one last night, and he did okay at first...then got rekt not too long after half a minute or so. There was 7 eligible participants in that particular duel instance, the others shouldve gotten a crack at it.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    One thing I just want to reiterate is that they should not pop two CEs at once. Get a group with 30 and a group with 8 for the add one with the towers you have to stand in. Not enough people in the group to do the towers, so of course we wiped.

    It's just bad design. The more I place Bozja, the more I realize theres a lot of parts of it that are badly designed, even if it is better than Eureka.
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    Bun Fisha
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    Lich
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    Fisher Lv 59
    Worst thing is that there is actually no reason to do Bozjan. Relic grind should be in there ONLY. No HW fates and dungeon grind. This is stupid. It's a lvl80 relic and we are doing easy lvl50-60 content for it??? Ehhh..... lame.
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