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  1. #1
    Player
    Curisu's Avatar
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    CLL spawns hour after enough rank 10 player enters the instance.
    There is no other spawn requirement.

    But the worst thing is, that very often CCL is spawning while any other CE is running
    So it often has just 3 players joining because everyone else is in a CE and can not escape without losing mettle.

    That's a huge flaw and they need to fix it, otherwise you will get more and more frustrated player who waited a hour for nothing.
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    Last edited by Curisu; 10-19-2020 at 01:26 PM.

  2. #2
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    That's a huge flaw and they need to fix it, otherwise you will get more and more frustrated player who waited a hour for nothing.
    That's not really an issue anymore. With the Castrum spawntime no longer a secret, usually enough people in the instance are keeping track of the time. Even if you don't know yourself you can always ask in Shout when Castrum will be up. Just plan around it and don't join any CE like 10 minutes before CCL will pop.

    This weekend it was just the other way around: With everyone planing for Castrum, some normal CEs often had only like 1-3 people in their queuing list. We have already shifted from "Oh no, only a handfull of people are queing for Castrum, guess we won't make it" to "Oh no, there are more of 48 people for Castrum, I hope I'll make the cut".
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 10-19-2020 at 03:51 PM.
    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


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    Nothv13's Avatar
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    Einulfr Nothson
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    That's not really an issue anymore. With the Castrum spawntime no longer a secret, usually enough people in the instance are keeping track of the time. Even if you don't know yourself you can always ask in Shout when Castrum will be up. Just plan around it and don't join any CE like 10 minutes before CCL will pop.

    This weekend it was just the other way around: With everyone planing for Castrum, some normal CEs often had only like 1-3 people in their queuing list. We have already shifted from "Oh no, only a handfull of people are queing for Castrum, guess we won't make it" to "Oh no, there are more of 48 people for Castrum, I hope I'll make the cut".
    Still an issue. Had a run of Castrums just last night that didn't even reach 20 people because people had hopped into CEs that started right before the pop meaning they either die and go back to base and then register, of do their current CE.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    Still an issue. Had a run of Castrums just last night that didn't even reach 20 people because people had hopped into CEs that started right before the pop meaning they either die and go back to base and then register, of do their current CE.
    Did anyone announce in shout chat that Castrum would be starting in x minutes and not to join any other CE's?

    If so, then the issue is that people chose to not play Castrum, and prioritised those other CE's. That's player agency and you can't really fault that.
    If not, then the problem is that nobody informed anyone of when Castrum was starting.
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    Einulfr Nothson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Did anyone announce in shout chat that Castrum would be starting in x minutes and not to join any other CE's?

    If so, then the issue is that people chose to not play Castrum, and prioritised those other CE's. That's player agency and you can't really fault that.
    If not, then the problem is that nobody informed anyone of when Castrum was starting.
    Yes to the first. The people in the CEs were complaining that about being stuck in the CEs, or losing a butt load of mettle. Not to mention we ran into a lot of inaccurate callouts.
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Personally, I didn't enjoy it. Tried it for 2 days and decided it's not worth my time.
    I'm only interested in completing my relics (4x). The best way to complete relics is Heavesward fates.
    With how easy the 2nd step is, I might go for a 5th relic.
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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Personally, I didn't enjoy it. Tried it for 2 days and decided it's not worth my time.
    I'm only interested in completing my relics (4x). The best way to complete relics is Heavesward fates.
    With how easy the 2nd step is, I might go for a 5th relic.
    This is a bit of a shame, because Bozja, and specifically the Castrum Lacus Litore finale, has as much content as your typical Alliance Raid.
    The format itself is just like an Alliance Raid, but with more interesting mechanics.
    It has as much Story content as an Alliance Raid and it's related quests.
    Then you get decent, current gear for completing it.

    People clamour for this kind of content that we only every odd patch for a maximum of three per expansion, and here's a fourth one!
    They also tend to complain that everything in the game is instance based with no reason to actually play in the overworld, and here's an Alliance Raid that relies on exploration gameplay to enter!

    The problem with people completing their Relics via HW FATEs is that once they've done so, they have less reason to play and less to gain from doing Bozja.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 10-19-2020 at 05:38 PM.

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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    This is a bit of a shame, because Bozja, and specifically the Castrum Lacus Litore finale, has as much content as your typical Alliance Raid.
    Calling it a shame is a bit much.

    I know what Bozja is and what it offers, I'm simply not interested in doing it. My opinion does not stop people from playing the content and enjoying it.
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Calling it a shame is a bit much.

    I know what Bozja is and what it offers, I'm simply not interested in doing it. My opinion does not stop people from playing the content and enjoying it.
    Calling it "a bit of a shame" is about the least dramatic thing I could possibly have said.

    It's a shame because I've seen a lot of people say this, and yet you can't know what it offers if you haven't played the Castrum yet. Unless you watch it on twitch or something i guess.
    They're put off by the initial grind (even though it's of much of one) so never learn just how much content, and vital story exposition, is included.

    Would you reject an entire Alliance Raid series claiming 'I know what it offers and I don't want to play Alliance Raids anymore'?
    Would you give up on the Nier Raids just because you started the quest chain but decided you didn't like running pointless fetch quests, before you actually managed to unlock the raid itself?

    The Castrum is essentially our fourth Ivalice Raid.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 10-19-2020 at 09:45 PM.

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    Ertai Spelldragon
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    It really blows when 2-3 Castrums spawn all at once and the players in the zone are forced to split between small groups that are doomed to fail. Castrums timers need to adjust to the players with in the zone and scale when the player base is small in the zone to ensure healthy longevity. Heavensward zones also take away players from doing the new zone due to the drop rate being 75% faster for memories. If you lower the drop rate and increase in the new zone players will come back again.
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