Nope you didn't add enough plots SE...

[JamieRose]

I wanted to post this in my own thread, but the mods locked it. /golfclap

I did eventually manage to get a small plot, but I had to camp plots for 12 hours. We were supposed to be able to get plots at 3am, not 3pm. Furthermore, this whole process left me feeling sick at the end of the day and it's not fair to players to put them through a process that's detrimental to their health.

Housing needs to be fixed. What's been done with it is just downright unfair. The devs need to step up and stop making excuses.

[KadaRemnant]

This is an example of playing housing wrong. You get very little benefit from camping extended periods. Just house hunt for an hour a day or something. You’ll enjoy the game way more, wont be frustrated, and will get a house in the end.

Wrong. I left for 2 minutes for a break and the house got taken. You can't even take a break! It's disgusting what SE do to us. Rng timer needs to go now!! Covid has been here for long enough! People can go onlibe to keep their houses no excuses! This is so unhealthy! Bring back auto demo and remove timer!!!

[Penthea]

Wrong. I left for 2 minutes for a break and the house got taken. You can't even take a break! It's disgusting what SE do to us. Rng timer needs to go now!!

I'm with you here. Completely agree that the timer is a big issue. It stopped house flippers from selling private homes but it replaced that problem with something else. It wasn't a fix. Just a swap of issues.

Covid has been here for long enough! People can go onlibe to keep their houses no excuses! This is so unhealthy! Bring back auto demo and remove timer!!!

Not with you here. As the pandemic is progressing more and more people I know are losing their jobs. It's actually becoming very difficult to find work because the job market has shrunk quite a lot but the amount of people needing work has risen. It doesn't help that those who think the precautions we must take during the pandemic somehow don't apply to them are ruining any hope of controlling the virus before we get a vaccine. Every time I read about surges that happen after restrictions have been lifted I get so angry because so many think less restrictions = no restrictions. But that subject is a totally different topic.

[KayRadley]

Covid has been here for long enough!

People are dying, Karen.

[KadaRemnant]

People are dying, Karen.

I didn't mean it this way. I meant that before the pandemic you could lose your house. Work is more important than houses of course, but houses are there with no one while others try their hardest to get one. It's punishing everyone. Why now houses shouldn't be auto demo?

[Penthea]

I didn't mean it this way. I meant that before the pandemic you could lose your house. Work is more important than houses of course, but houses are there with no one while others try their hardest to get one. It's punishing everyone. Why now houses shouldn't be auto demo?

Because it would be a very bad move for SE to punish players who have the misfortune to be unable to log in due to a global issue that isn't their fault. It would be a really bad look for pr. Really really bad. The last thing SE want is to be known as the company that takes your stuff away because you're not part of the lucky group who haven't been hugely negatively impacted by a global pandemic. Additionally I like to think SE do this out of both compassion and business. Everyone knows about the delays we have had with content releases because of covid. SE know very well how the pandemic can impact professional and personal lives.

Also it's pretty...icky...that some people want to take advantage of a pandemic so they can get a digital house in a game. Not saying you do but some people clearly do.

Players should be pushing to improve the housing system itself. Not asking SE to forget about the pandemic and put demolition back on.

Anyway even if they put demolition back on we still have a major shortage of houses. Demolition has always been at best a band-aid fix. Like most aspects of the system. Sigh.

[EaMett]

Wrong. I left for 2 minutes for a break and the house got taken. You can't even take a break! It's disgusting what SE do to us. Rng timer needs to go now!! Covid has been here for long enough! People can go onlibe to keep their houses no excuses! This is so unhealthy! Bring back auto demo and remove timer!!!

Again, you’re the one who’s doing it wrong. There’s little difference in the time it takes to get a house between camping 15h straight and camping 1h a day for 15days.
The problem is that most people are like you and never stop to think about it. They end up doing crazy long sessions and get frustrated then complain about it on the forums.
Meanwhile, the player that does 1h stints and only bothers with plots that have been up for at least a little while (say 12h) gets lucky one day and sends another enraged player to these forums.

The reality is that if you camp 1h a day, statistically you’ll get a house faster than a mentor will get his mount with the same amount of time. Almost 10 times faster actually.
Housing is accessible and isn’t even close to the most time consuming feature in this game. People are just doing it completely wrong. The amount of people I see camping plots in shirogane on a regular basis on my server is appalling and completely demonstrates what I’m talking about.

[Arielen]

Wrong. I left for 2 minutes for a break and the house got taken. You can't even take a break! It's disgusting what SE do to us. Rng timer needs to go now!! Covid has been here for long enough! People can go onlibe to keep their houses no excuses! This is so unhealthy! Bring back auto demo and remove timer!!!

COVID isn't the only reason autodemo is suspended at this point. We've had 3 cat3+ hurricanes so far, the riots in the US, the dam breach, wildfires in western US, shit tons of flooding. Have you just not been reading the news? And that's ONLY in the United States, let alone elsewhere.

[Moonlite]

https://ffxivcensus.com/ active characters shows how many have completed the 5.0 story quest as of April and it's as close as we've got

I think new actual servers (not housing wards) would definitely alleviate the housing issue a bit, provided people are willing to move. Spriggan and Twintania only recently ran out of plots with ~7k players on them. All the other NA and EU realms have 10k+ characters on them that have finished 5.0. JPs housing problem is bad (no plots available) but it's not as severe as the NA/EU one because there are 32 JP servers vs 24 NA and 12 EU servers.

Alternatively, if we do get Ishgard housing, only a few more wards would be needed even for the largest servers in the game to have their demand pretty much covered for.

I actually meant whole world/server is housing wards and you move to your world from there. That way when it got full they could just create another, assuming they want to spend money on players to make the playing experience better. I do understand that the game is not designed quite right for this, right now.


The idea that ishgard and new wards before 6.0 would reach houses=number of players is great news. It would also be great if SE manually reviewed houses on accounts and took some action. Also we have FC points a maintenance tax for FCs should be looked into. Not something crazy but something a few people playing casually a week could manage. Or one dedicated person could manage themselves. SE has already went back on a few things for housing already, so these aren't to big. Once it has become stable with some smalls readily available for a few patches they could remove it.

[Elamys]

That’s why new wards are typically reserved for fc first. This patch was different because SE we’re making up for the lack of demo timers. So they allowed everyone to participate.

This is not likely the case, as they did ward releases prior to this that were also open to everyone. What probably happened was that they did the 2 that were for FCs only, realized that the demand was higher for personals leaving the new wards to be barren for several weeks, and decided not to do the restrictions this time. Not to "make up" for the lack of demo timers, although that may have been a factor. But really, we're just guessing.

This is an example of playing housing wrong. You get very little benefit from camping extended periods. Just house hunt for an hour a day or something. You’ll enjoy the game way more, wont be frustrated, and will get a house in the end.

There is absolutely zero promise that this method will work and it will in fact not work at all on any server with a moderate amount of competition or where plots open infrequently.