Nope you didn't add enough plots SE...

[Katie_Kitty]

It shouldn't have taken me five years and a transfer to get a house

Good news, it didn't have to. I got my first house back in stormblood and since that time have had many many different houses on many servers and even different characters. It's not THAT hard to get a house. You just have to actually put effort in. I realize this game's community wants everything simply handed to them and don't want to work for anything but that doesn't mean getting a house isn't possible.

[MsQi]

Good news, it didn't have to. I got my first house back in stormblood and since that time have had many many different houses on many servers and even different characters. It's not THAT hard to get a house. You just have to actually put effort in. I realize this game's community wants everything simply handed to them and don't want to work for anything but that doesn't mean getting a house isn't possible.

The stars align for you so therefore "not THAT hard"? It has nothing to do with wanting things "handed to them".

[Nomenanza]

You just have to actually put effort in. I realize this game's community wants everything simply handed to them and don't want to work for anything but that doesn't mean getting a house isn't possible.

The problem isn't the effort. The problem is that the system itself is flawed and full of holes that create a miserable experience for players.
Sitting in front of a plaque with 5 other players and just spamming the purchase requests praying some dingus not to just relocate on that spot obliterating your invested time is NOT effort.

Because you had an easier time compared to other players in a housing roulette doesn't mean that experience is shared by most.

[Katie_Kitty]

The stars align for you so therefore "not THAT hard"? It has nothing to do with wanting things "handed to them".

Housing is an example of this game's community wanting everything handed to them, yes, but it's not the only example. 99% of people in this game do not want to put effort into anything. They won't even bother to learn how to play their own classes and if they can't clear something while mashing random buttons then they cry that it's too hard and needs to be nerfed. The housing uproar is just another symptom of the underlying problem, the fact that this game is overrun with lazy toxic casuals who can't be bothered to even put forth the tiniest bit of effort into anything.

The problem isn't the effort. The problem is that the system itself is flawed and full of holes that create a miserable experience for players.
Sitting in front of a plaque with 5 other players and just spamming the purchase requests praying some dingus not to just relocate on that spot obliterating your invested time is NOT effort.

Because you had an easier time compared to other players in a housing roulette doesn't mean that experience is shared by most.

Nobody's forcing you to stand there spamming a placard. In fact, you don't even need to do that. Last time I bought a house that way, I didn't stand at the placard for any more than 10-15m at a time. I would click for a bit, go run a dungeon or something, or two, then click for a little bit, rinse and repeat. When the house was finally ready for purchase, I was there, and it was mine.

The invisible timer is bad and should be made visible so that people can plan properly. But other than that the housing system is fine. It's exclusive and limited and that gives it a nice sense of prestige and specialness that I appreciate. All you need to do is be vigilant and willing to put in the effort to get what you want.

[Fyffer]

Housing is an example of this game's community wanting everything handed to them, yes, but it's not the only example. 99% of people in this game do not want to put effort into anything. They won't even bother to learn how to play their own classes and if they can't clear something while mashing random buttons then they cry that it's too hard and needs to be nerfed. The housing uproar is just another symptom of the underlying problem, the fact that this game is overrun with lazy toxic casuals who can't be bothered to even put forth the tiniest bit of effort into anything.



Nobody's forcing you to stand there spamming a placard. In fact, you don't even need to do that. Last time I bought a house that way, I didn't stand at the placard for any more than 10-15m at a time. I would click for a bit, go run a dungeon or something, or two, then click for a little bit, rinse and repeat. When the house was finally ready for purchase, I was there, and it was mine.

The invisible timer is bad and should be made visible so that people can plan properly. But other than that the housing system is fine. It's exclusive and limited and that gives it a nice sense of prestige and specialness that I appreciate. All you need to do is be vigilant and willing to put in the effort to get what you want.

What prestige? No one but your friends knows you own one. And no one but them would care. I certainly don't run around looking at the names on houses and make a list of those super special people that bought a house. It really just sounds like you are defending this cause you wouldn't feel special if everyone got one.

[EaMett]

The invisible timer is bad and should be made visible so that people can plan properly. But other than that the housing system is fine. It's exclusive and limited and that gives it a nice sense of prestige and specialness that I appreciate. All you need to do is be vigilant and willing to put in the effort to get what you want.

This is the solution. Make it every 10 or 20mn on the hour and done. The system works surprisingly well in every other aspect. It's just the spamming that is insufferable.

What prestige? No one but your friends knows you own one. And no one but them would care. I certainly don't run around looking at the names on houses and make a list of those super special people that bought a house. It really just sounds like you are defending this cause you wouldn't feel special if everyone got one.

You can get a sense of accomplishment and/or prestige without involving others. Just knowing you did it is enough. It's often like that with limited demand items in games. Especially in pvp (which housing is)

[Fyffer]

This is the solution. Make it every 10 or 20mn on the hour and done. The system works surprisingly well in every other aspect. It's just the spamming that is insufferable.



You can get a sense of accomplishment and/or prestige without involving others. Just knowing you did it is enough. It's often like that with limited demand items in games. Especially in pvp (which housing is)

I guess I dun get that kind of thing. Then again, I'm a co-oper. I like it when people win along with me.

[MsQi]

Housing is an example of this game's community wanting everything handed to them,

You get something handed to you, because you happen to be in the right place at the right time and you earned it, but all the people who have been trying for years don't put in any effort? Unless you can prove you put in more effort than anyone and everyone who doesn't have a house you don't have a leg to stand on.