Does this mean the Foundation will never be cleaned up?


Does this mean the Foundation will never be cleaned up?




Of course it won't. They have to sell that "this place has seen hard times" vibe to people arriving in the city for the first time.





It's why I think it would be best if the progression of the area related to your own personal journey while binding the maximum progress to the community (such that everyone who is actively end game contributing progresses the area as a team, and must do so or it wont upgrade, meanwhile those coming in late get to see the city evolve as logical to their story) over just... "this area is blown to bits and oh yeah this area is immaculate cause WoL helped, and like.. uh.. didn't care about the rest of the city lul".
Plus I just generally like to see stuff change myself lol. It's why I don't and wont play a sandbox mmo, but why I play FFXIV. I know someone say "But this is an MMORPG!" but clearly this is a unique one where a massive amount of it is personally driven (and even in other games less story driven like WoW there is still a HUGE bias to the personal journey), like the vast majority of the game is such that story is a requirement and pretty much nothing moves without you. This of course also means that sometimes it's maybe a good idea to have a diversity of content, so... just do something different cause.. maybe something different is nice.. so I'm not saying it's forbidden lol, just that having the personal journey be paramount to the experience of the game is certainly well within the wheelhouse of this game and is not a strange bias to have (and enjoy / encourage about the game).
If the clean up causes so much issue that they must use very strict phasing then I can understand the hesitance (makes people have trouble playing together), but if it's like beast tribes (which doesn't) then I eagerly encourage them to use this more. Foundation may be able to get away with beast tribe clean up, as for the housing zone.. that'd have to have something a bit stranger (fade away if you go beyond an area unrepaired in another person's world but you're still all on the same plane of existence, and if you join parties it'll add an 'echo' overlay to the players as they sync up to let them know they're phasing through time), so I'm still kind of pushing / encouraging SE to consider it anyways so long as it's not horribly restrictive phasing for the next content concept like this (I encourage the community ideas again, but like I said lean more into community determines the maximum step, personal determines the actual - and if the area can utilize a phasing system without too much pain then do so, and if it can't then I guess fine sometimes it is what it is).
Not quite set up for it, but I had imagined it would be a fun content to have a Dark Cloud sort of system where you get to find and house NPCs across the world and this would provide you benefits and progression in a fairly long lasting system (that keeps getting added to, like the delivery NPCs at max can be asked to come to your village). Maybe a little Anime Crossing like in vibes, or the other 500 rpgs that have a roster / recruitment system lol. The content could be for FC or the personal, either or would be neat (of course for the FC would be a nice new group project for FCs). An NPC housing visual might work very well for that (although clearly not required to look 'just like' player housing lol).If this wasn’t going to be a lead up to a housing district, then what was the point of making a zone that looks like a housing district down to the same number of large, medium, and small plots of houses all plopped down in a fashion that looks like a housing district and an obvious apartment building at the top of it all? I can see this specific zone remaining as a crafting and NPC area but considering all the other housing wards have dozens and dozens of copies not filled with NPCs, I don’t see why that won’t work here.
It would be in really bad taste for them to make an out-of-season April fools’ joke out of a zone that looks exactly like a housing zone but isn’t.
Last edited by Shougun; 10-11-2020 at 02:25 PM.


Dunno if its true or not but was told after the final step in our current restoration progress the Brume gets cleaned up a bit.


What will happen to the systems and achievements? Will everything be removed?
I just started on the 500K Achievement for GSM and it would be pretty lame if they remove it before I get to finish it (not sure whether I can make it in a month).
Can we have clarification on that please?


I think they are gonna keep the Firmament open as a crafting and gathering area for the forseeable future, even after repairs are finished. They can just say that "Those components are needed to furnish the other wards that are opening up" and thus keep it up indefinitely. Partially because it's a big crafting leveling area.What will happen to the systems and achievements? Will everything be removed?
I just started on the 500K Achievement for GSM and it would be pretty lame if they remove it before I get to finish it (not sure whether I can make it in a month).
Can we have clarification on that please?
You have more than a month.What will happen to the systems and achievements? Will everything be removed?
I just started on the 500K Achievement for GSM and it would be pretty lame if they remove it before I get to finish it (not sure whether I can make it in a month).
Can we have clarification on that please?
The next phase is likely in 5.41, which won't be until January. You'll then have several weeks for that phase to play out, just as this one.
So probably until March, depending on how fast your server is.


seeing how the mats for the previous tier of expert crafts are still available in the diadem, I'd assume that the item turn in parts ect will remain even after the whole restoration is completed

Never thought about them taken away that Pteranodon Mount. If they’re gonna be done with all this I hope they would still keep the option of being able to obtain this?


I'm assuming there will be a template version of the Firmament that we'll always be able to get into with the reasoning of continued development/restoration for Ishgard as a whole. That way they'll be able to have the vendors, quests, Custom Delivery client, etc. always accessible.
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