(LL Discussion) Physical and Magical not distinguishable? UI can't implement it? Why?

[Tint]

Dark Mind and Camouflage are flavour skills intended for trash pulls and chip damage.
They dont need to homogenize their only remaining unique abilities.

Camouflage, yes, but Dark Mind is not a usefull tool against trash pulls. Magic auto attacks are pretty rare and with only 10 seconds duration it's not even that good against magic attacking trash packs. Dark Mind always was best against tank busters, making DRK the most defensive tank in savage raids, where magic busters are not uncommon.

And Camouflage by the way has a 10% damage mitigation against all types of damage, and when you parry an attack you can be sure it's physical.

I don't want to take away the flavour of DRK and I don't want to nerf his awesome extra button against magic busters, but I want to know when I can actually use it. Otherwise it's just a useless button.

But when they really can't give us a clue if an attack is magical, then maybe give Dark Mind also a 10% damage mitigation against all types of damage on top of the magical mitigation. Or bring back Dark Dance and let it share the cooldown with Dark Mind, so at least there is an actual fluff mitiagtion tool (not that DRK really needs it - while DRK is lacking a fluff mitigation tool, TBN is just that powerfull... but Dark Dance wasn't that strong anyway, so I don't see a problem with adding it back).


However, it has to be saved somewhere if an attack does magical or physical damage. Is it really that difficult to let every cast look that up and do something like "if physical use that normal castbar" and "if magical use that other castbar". Then they can switch between magical and physical back and forth and the game automatically uses the correct castbar o.ô

[VenKitsune]

And Camouflage by the way has a 10% damage mitigation against all types of damage, and when you parry an attack you can be sure it's physical.

DRK shouldn't have to use Dark Mind for tank busters, and neither does GNB need to use Camouflage (parry so physical only).
They have enough tools between their 30% mitigation, their on demand shield, and Rampart/Reprisal to take anything in their stride if used correctly.

Dark Mind and Camouflage are flavour skills intended for trash pulls and chip damage.
They dont need to homogenize their only remaining unique abilities.

Just wanted to correct you here.

Magical attacks of all types are now parryable/blockable, they changed that some time in stormblood i believe, to make PLD more viable in raids with the use of sheltron and Bulwark. So you can't even tell if something is physical anymore based on if you can parry it.

Honestly its stupid. Anyone done E4S? The attack where he smashes the arena with his hand over and over? That's magical. Yes, Magical. He slams the ground with his massive fist, and its magical, it boggles the mind. There really needs to be a way to tell what damage type is what because even things that LOOK physical arent, even things that look magical, arent. The Auto attacks from Shiva in E8S For example? She blasts magic out of her hand, you'd assume its magical but last time i checked, it was physical and yet in E2S, where magic is also blasted out of the bosses hand, that IS magical, so its not like magical auto attacks are uncommon.

[Tint]

Just wanted to correct you here.

Magical attacks of all types are now parryable/blockable, they changed that some time in stormblood i believe, to make PLD more viable in raids with the use of sheltron and Bulwark. So you can't even tell if something is physical anymore based on if you can parry it.

Nope, you can't parry magical attacks. But yes, you can block them now.

The change to parry (and block) was that you can parry (and block) attacks without facing towards the enemy now.

[VenKitsune]

Nope, you can't parry magical attacks. But yes, you can block them now.

The change to parry (and block) was that you can parry (and block) attacks without facing towards the enemy now.

Really? I'm almost certain i've been parrying magic attacks on GNB after the 99 kills (Read: Slog) through Seat of Sacrifice for the totems, namely the LB1 and earthshakers but i could be wrong, those could be physical for all i know or i could of been seeing things, i havent bothered to check. Just another problem with the current system, heh.
Funny thing too, there is no way to GUARANTEE a parry these days, only ways to guarantee a block so you could chalk it up to being "well i didnt parry it, must be magical" when its IS physical, you just have horrible luck on parry chances. Ironically, this might of been the only good use for the old parry substat...Testing their game for systems they dont want to implement because they're too busy adding umbrellas to the game.