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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZorkD View Post
    While these are not bad or wrong reasonings I would have liked to see a way for Emet, to break free from the will of Zodiark shown in game.
    Where as my own understanding of the strength of a tempering comes from the two Alisaie quest lines with the goblin and the 'ra child, in Ahm Araeng, where the former, whilst not concluded shows no breaking from the tempering of titan. And the latter whilst not described as a tempering by an entity referred to as a primal, did show a level of regaining its personhood.
    Ga Bu isn't tempered. He is suffering from extreme dissociation due to the traumatic events he experienced. I.e. witnessing his parents' deaths and summoning a primal. There's a bit of ambiguity in the story around this, where Alphinaud briefly expresses concerns that the koboldling may be tempered but if that were the case they would have executed him ages ago.

    Sin eaters are not related to tempering. Having your body's aetheric balance overwhelmed and corrupted by the pure aether energy of light is something entirely different.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    It's implied that Ga Bu might be tempered, only kept alive as a special request from Alisae. The circumstances leading to his current mental state are extremely suspect, but it's still ambiguous.

    Either way if he is tempered, Alisae's treatment for Sin Eater victims was explained as plausibly being able to cure tempering though some mystical mumbo jumbo, so if that's the case I'd wager she'll try it straightaway.
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Remember, we are tempered too. That's why nobody else can turn us. We have quite a bit of freedom in our state.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Remember, we are tempered too. That's why nobody else can turn us. We have quite a bit of freedom in our state.
    Remember that is purely a theory at this point. It has not been stated in-game or confirmed by the writers. It might fit the facts, but that does not yet make it a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    My personal interpretation would be that its not the Emet'Selch we fought and traveled with who showed up but more a... mental image our character has of him. [...]
    I'm just pretty sure that its not Emet'Selch himself - hes dead, gone for good. So whatever we saw in the end, its not the same Emet'Selch who was tempered by Zodiark and worked against us.
    Ere Our Curtain Falls makes it quite clear that it's the real Emet-Selch's consciousness and not something the WoL dreamt up, or a pre-made illusion from the crystal.
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Remember Emet also seemed to just want to nap. What kind of primal would just go and allow a tempered subject to just float in the rift and be all nah I did my job and now I'm just going to float here and wonder if I'll dissolve into nothingness. At least that's what I got from that tale from the shadows that even before we killed him he'd just go and do that.

    He seems to be the kind who at least over the many years would do what he had to do in order for a rejoining to occur, but after that was done go and do whatever he wanted. Even if that might have been just napping or looking at the memory crystals. Or trying to find any hint of his two friends in the lifestream.
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