Help me be better!

[Spartan_Aoues]

I'll counter your 1 year of experience tanking, with my 5 years + of tanking experience, and further my experience in running many dungeons as melee, caster, ranged and healer, this is just annoying and infuriating

5 years huh, wanna link ur logs?

Jokes aside ff14 is a very easy game there is no reason not to challenge yourself play optimally and get fast clears to boot.

Nowadays, most people don't speak up in DF parties simple because of a subjective clause in the ToS that has become a sore point for many players, of risk saying something that someone will consider "generally offensive", and thus potentially having their account banned. Yes even something as simple as giving "unsolicited" advice

this is alittle much

I can tell you for fact, this will be a detriment to their playstyle in dungeons, and there wouldn't be so many of us stating this as such if it wasn't true. I personally do not like chaining mobs, and I am heavily critical of any person that advocates for this sort of playstyle, so jabs there will be many. It's nothing personal, I just find it woefully stupid, as it carries no tangible benefit, versus having committed and controlled pulls, that allow for respite between packs.

instead of back seat gaming just let him try it out. If he likes it he can do it, if he doesn't he can stop. He doesn't need to be the best tank, just needs to improve.

Now typically, pulling wall to wall will ensure this doesn't actually come about, but that's up to the confidence level of the tank. Of course, there is some dungeons where this just isn't advisable, just something you pick up over time.

wait you consider wall to wall ok, but not chain pulling? Whats the difference? I think you need to define your terms

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

5 years huh, wanna link ur logs?

Jokes aside ff14 is a very easy game there is no reason not to challenge yourself play optimally and get fast clears to boot.

I mean I don't hide my logs or anything, if you wanna look, you know where to find them.
I am aware of playing optimally and trying to get fast clears, I do participate in some end game content.

instead of back seat gaming just let him try it out. If he likes it he can do it, if he doesn't he can stop. He doesn't need to be the best tank, just needs to improve.

It's as much back seat gaming as you saying he should chain pulling. Not saying to be the best tank, just pointing out, that you should to be conscious of other players, and how their jobs function, not just assume your way is correct. One of the core functions of a tank is holding mobs in place and reducing unnecessary movement, this extends to AoE situations too, not just bosses.

wait you consider wall to wall ok, but not chain pulling? Whats the difference? I think you need to define your terms

The difference with wall to wall versus chain pulling is, with wall to wall, you pull each pack until you reach the wall (point you can no longer advance/ last pack in the corridor) then everyone unloads their AoE in a big burst and get the most out of their skills. As long as the group is good, the mobs melt.
The worst method, chain pulling, pulling a new pack while there is still mobs from the previous pack still alive, everyone blows all their skills on the first set, nobody gets any respite, no HP/MP ticks, missing targets pulled out of AoE range/ casting range, and then have nothing to use on the fresh mobs that just got picked up.

Wall to wall is optimal, chain pulling is not, it serves only to be an annoyance to other party members.