Quote Originally Posted by Irisdina_Wiloh View Post
How will anyone ever know they're playing poorly or straight up wrong if no one ever tells them
If someone want's to improve or notices they get kicked from a lot of parties.. they can ask why or look up how to improve. Otherwise it is not my responsibility or right to tell them they're bad. I'm not suggesting silence if mechanics are being done incorrectly, or content isn't being passed though, just that people shouldn't jump on someone just because they're playing sub-par.

Quote Originally Posted by Irisdina_Wiloh View Post
This seems like a very counter-productive attitude that exists purely to justify bad players being bad.
How does this "justify" players being bad? It just avoids persecuting people who aren't up to whomevers standards.. and usually those standards are above and beyond "did we pass the content", which isn't necessary to play and enjoy the game.

Quote Originally Posted by Irisdina_Wiloh View Post
I feel sorry for Jijifli because it wasn't their party so they couldn't kick this problematic DNC, but according to you, Jijifli also shouldn't even mention that the DNC is being a nuisance and actually shouldn't even be in said party. We deal with this kind of issue in parties constantly, regardless of content or level, where players just don't put the effort in that others do. This is a team game, if you're not willing to put the effort in and respect your fellow players time, you should not be playing this game, it's selfish beyond belief. No one is entitled to free clears and carries in content just because they don't want to actually try.
They can initiate a votekick like everyone else can. State a reason. Or if you don't like people allowing sub-par players, leave. You don't have to be in the farm either. This isn't "never say anything about it", to clarify, just that people who constantly whine about the healer not healing or the tank not pulling big enough really need to make their own parties if it's such a big problem.


Quote Originally Posted by Irisdina_Wiloh View Post
I've spoken up in a farm PF before about a player who was dying to all the mechanics and generally just not helping. I got told that person was a friend of said PF leader and they only kicked them after they had been DC'd for about 10 minutes. I shut up after I found it was there friend because I know how it goes, there was a potential for me to get kicked if I kept complaining because people would rather defend their bad friends than admit they shouldn't be there. Did I mention this bad player DC'd after winning the mount the first time it dropped? Very cool.
And yet you live and continue to play the game. It really didn't change your life all that much to just be quiet did it? You could have left as well.