Lets talk about the FFXIV player base..

[DPZ2]

It's bad when an experienced players points out your flaws in a video game? It gives people an opportunity to be better? Yeah, a lot of people in this community are cringe alright and it boils down again to my point of immaturity. This is baby mentality, celabrating laziness and stubborness while calling is diversity. I won't partake in that sort of perverse discourse.

Is it bad when experienced players point out your flaws in a video game? It depends on how you point out those flaws, to whom, and in what context. If the player is in a leveling roulette, you are level 80 and they are level 25, then yes, it's probably bad. If the player has 4 months of experience in this game and you have seven years, then maybe it's bad. If this is the player's first MMO and you've been playing since (ESO/FFXI/WOW beta), then it could be bad. Depends entirely on what you say and how you say it.

You're comment about "baby mentality" and "diversity" leads me to believe that, if you've ever experienced negative feedback from those you lecture about playing correctly, you probably deserved it. Going into any "helpful conversation" with that sort of idea on your mind is guaranteed to draw out a negative response.

In the six years I've been playing this game, I have never run into a situation where someone was kicked for sub-par performance. I have never looked at another player as a "deadbeat". I have never run into someone requiring (or receiving) a lecture on 'how to play better'.

Most importantly, the people who apparently deserve all of this opprobrium do not read the forums. Your words do not touch them.

[Juicymama]

In the six years I've been playing this game, I have never run into a situation where someone was kicked for sub-par performance. I have never looked at another player as a "deadbeat". I have never run into someone requiring (or receiving) a lecture on 'how to play better'.

This, last night in my puppet farming run, i was the pld in an alliance where the 2 healers were dead 90% of the time, which result in the whole alliance dead 90% of the time minus me since i can self heal.

It was rather funny at the 3 robots boss fight my robot was still at 50% when other 2 died lol. yet we never kicked the healers, we just said this is a 1 man party lol

[Waterscape]

This, last night in my puppet farming run, i was the pld in an alliance where the 2 healers were dead 90% of the time, which result in the whole alliance dead 90% of the time minus me since i can self heal.

It was rather funny at the 3 robots boss fight my robot was still at 50% when other 2 died lol. yet we never kicked the healers, we just said this is a 1 man party lol

And you think this is okay to perform like this ? If they are news i can understand but they still need to put some effort in the fight , they are not playing alone and they ruin other player experience

[linayar]

And you think this is okay to perform like this ? If they are news i can understand but they still need to put some effort in the fight , they are not playing alone and they ruin other player experience

Subjectively, I don't think it's ok, but it depends on the healers trying, and if so, it may be ok. But if you can still clear the fight, it can actually be kind of fun beating a fight with some kind of handicap.

Objectively, it's up to the party. If no one tries to say anything to help the healers, no one tries to vote kick the healers, and they stay throughout the run, then they deserve that kind of healers. And if they clear the run, then great, they get whatever they get out of it.