Lets talk about the FFXIV player base..

[Cyreil]

I didn't know this was just a FFXIV playerbase problem.

[Darsien]

I didn't know this was just a FFXIV playerbase problem.

I dunno. I can't think of many other games with communities that outright refuse to get better or do the minimum the game allows you to do. That sorta selfishness on FFXIV's level is a unique bar that no other team games have been able to reach thus far.

[Cyreil]

I dunno. I can't think of many other games with communities that outright refuse to get better or do the minimum the game allows you to do. That sorta selfishness on FFXIV's level is a unique bar that no other team games have been able to reach thus far.

I guess the rest of the world is getting along perfectly then and can handle any criticism on any and all topics.

Insert surprised Pikachu face here.

[Darsien]

I guess the rest of the world is getting along perfectly then and can handle any criticism on any and all topics.

Insert surprised Pikachu face here.

Since you're apparently unaware, games and their communities can have both positive and negative aspects. Just because other games have other problems elsewhere does not mean that FFXIV's problems are suddenly negated.

This brings up another good point: Many in this community will defend the game from any criticism, regardless of how valid or invalid that criticism is. How can a game and its community grow if misguided players jump down the throats of anyone who dares speak an ill word? It's probably up there in the top 10 major issues the game and its community has.

Edit: I just realized you were referring to the real world. Most people can, in fact, handle criticism and talks in a lot of topics. Please get out more and stop living on the internet.

[Kes13a]

This brings up another good point: Many in this community will defend the game from any criticism, regardless of how valid or invalid that criticism is. How can a game and its community grow if misguided players jump down the throats of anyone who dares speak an ill word? It's probably up there in the top 10 major issues the game and its community has.

you say that you have played many mmo's, yet you say this, which is surprising. maybe you have not visited other game forums

this is something that happens in every mmo forum I have been on. this is not unique to FF XIV, and has been going on for literally... ages. so before you start tossing around how bad people are or how unaware they are, you may wish to take a long look in the mirror.. and as you say... get out more.

[Darsien]

you say that you have played many mmo's, yet you say this, which is surprising. maybe you have not visited other game forums

this is something that happens in every mmo forum I have been on. this is not unique to FF XIV, and has been going on for literally... ages. so before you start tossing around how bad people are or how unaware they are, you may wish to take a long look in the mirror.. and as you say... get out more.

Implying that I think that that specific thing is unique to FF. It just happens to be another part of the problem.

Speaking of "tossing around how bad people are," I think reading comprehension is something the general community is lacking. From my current sample size of specifically you, I think I might be on to something. Or you're just trying to put words in my mouth. Either way, embarrassing for you, huh?

Almost as if the pot is about to meet the kettle. When you have a better argument than "other things have this problem to," give me a call. Or you can at least not try to Strawman me. It's kinda boring.

[DynnDiablos]

I guess the rest of the world is getting along perfectly then and can handle any criticism on any and all topics.

Insert surprised Pikachu face here.

I play this game for the story and the crafting/gathering. I am free to play it as I wish. It's a GAME...it isn't that serious.

[RethDaron]

I dunno. I can't think of many other games with communities that outright refuse to get better or do the minimum the game allows you to do. That sorta selfishness on FFXIV's level is a unique bar that no other team games have been able to reach thus far.

You're joking right? I've never played a team based game that didn't involve blaming someone else nearly every match besides Overwatch.

Anyone watching can see it's often the person doing the blaming that isn't trying to get better and isn't trying to learn.

[Darsien]

You're joking right? I've never played a team based game that didn't involve blaming someone else nearly every match besides Overwatch.

Anyone watching can see it's often the person doing the blaming that isn't trying to get better and isn't trying to learn.

Perhaps you've misunderstood. I'm not talking about blame. I'm talking about refusal to get better or carry one's weight. That sort of thing is seen as selfish or as trolling in most other games. From other MMOs, to competitive team games, to non-competitive team games, the severity of the issue in FFXIV is unique.

But please also refer to my most recent post in regards to many defending the game and the community from criticism. You've helped me re-enforce the point, so thank you for that. You both have either employed sarcasm or tried to attack a point I did not make. Wonder if we'll get a third before page 2.