Nobody expects perfection in PUG content. However using the class kit correctly should be bare minimum.


Nobody expects perfection in PUG content. However using the class kit correctly should be bare minimum.


Anyone else cringing reading a certain someone's comments?
I think people taking the game way too seriously in PUG content is a shining example of issues with the XIV playerbase. Or maybe it's just the forums/reddit.



I honestly think 100% of it is that these players have no clue whats going on with some of the other players...for instance when 3 or 4 are on their own discord joking around during alliance raids, or other content = nobody sees that. Yes admittedly even I on some evenings will mess around in easier than Savage raid do or die extreme death hard core content be on with a few friends, in an entirely stranger based instance and we will goof off. Will we clear the stuff we signed up for? absolutely. Will be do weird things like use rescue on each other as a gag? most likely. Ive even been accused of being a bot before by 1 rando while the other 3 were myself and two friends, completely chatting in real time in discord on a simple dungeon run before, because i was not typing the entire time in in game chat, or at all.
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Geändert von ADVSS (08.10.20 um 01:40 Uhr)


You reading into this too much. I had in mind things like tanks not using cooldowns etc.
OP I noticed you've not done savage raids or ultimate raids. In fact it looks like you've barely done the normal raids and the 24 man raids. A lot of players don't really pay attention in casual content like dungeons, trials, normal raids, or even some savage raids. People usually goof around because they've done it so many times already and the mechanics are brain dead. I think if you experience ultimate raids and week 1/2 savage groups you will find there are many good players in this game.


I have seen this behavior in ALL MMOs that I've played to varying degrees. WoW is very similar to FFXIV, EQ was less so, but still had some. EQ2 was better than WoW but worse than EQ. Rift was similar to WoW and FFXIV. It's people, not the game. The same goes for criticizing, they all have their levels of white knighting.



It's just not worth helping players these days. You may as well be pissing in their cheerios.

It's always worth offering help, provided one take no for an answer without being offended. It's okay if someone doesn't want your help but in general offering help in a gentle and non-offending way is caring. I'll never stop doing that if circumstances need it.
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