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    Coven Weapons

    Does anyone know of a way currently to obtain the old Coven Weapons that were obtained through pre-rework Diadem, or are they just lost forever?
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    I believe they are gone, along with a move away from randomised stat aetherial gear in general.

    Do ARR leveling dungeons still drop aetherial gear? I don't do them enough to confirm but I know 5.3 added standardised gear to all of the old dungeons eg Aurum Cuirass, Dzemael Spear, etc.

    To those who don't know, Coven weapons was something they tried at the very end of Heavensward, a sort of raid area within Diadem which had a low chance to drop superior weapons.

    And I'm sad to see the remnants of those ideas fade away. More people these days seem to be coming around to the idea that it would be nice to have a surprise factor in the game, a rare chance to get epic loot, something out of the ordinary occuring. Nothing is worth anything because we all have the same stuff and nobody stands out.
    And yes, raiders using parsers and uploading their parses to external leaderboards didn't like rare weapons having the highest stat potential. Well whatever, there's ultimate now and that has an item level cap/sync, so you still all get to be identical and compete fairly on the external parser game.

    So yeah I'd like an alternate branch to the game that incorporates rng loot more and farming for rare things that have some value and consequence. Eureka had some of that, but the rarest items like cassie earrings only boosted you inside Eureka, which is now irrelevant because it was side content for a single expansion and discontinued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I believe they are gone, along with a move away from randomised stat aetherial gear in general.

    Do ARR leveling dungeons still drop aetherial gear? I don't do them enough to confirm but I know 5.3 added standardised gear to all of the old dungeons eg Aurum Cuirass, Dzemael Spear, etc.

    To those who don't know, Coven weapons was something they tried at the very end of Heavensward, a sort of raid area within Diadem which had a low chance to drop superior weapons.

    And I'm sad to see the remnants of those ideas fade away. More people these days seem to be coming around to the idea that it would be nice to have a surprise factor in the game, a rare chance to get epic loot, something out of the ordinary occuring. Nothing is worth anything because we all have the same stuff and nobody stands out.
    And yes, raiders using parsers and uploading their parses to external leaderboards didn't like rare weapons having the highest stat potential. Well whatever, there's ultimate now and that has an item level cap/sync, so you still all get to be identical and compete fairly on the external parser game.

    So yeah I'd like an alternate branch to the game that incorporates rng loot more and farming for rare things that have some value and consequence. Eureka had some of that, but the rarest items like cassie earrings only boosted you inside Eureka, which is now irrelevant because it was side content for a single expansion and discontinued.
    Gotcha, quite interesting and well rather uselss that they even bothered adding Coven DNC/GNB weapons, knowing that they would be un-obtainable, especially after they re-did Diadem. How rather unforunate.
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    Own 123 of 126 gunblades currently in game. I like gunblades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma711 View Post
    Gotcha, quite interesting and well rather uselss that they even bothered adding Coven DNC/GNB weapons, knowing that they would be un-obtainable, especially after they re-did Diadem. How rather unforunate.
    Technically they were obtainable between 5.0 -> 5.1 which was when the diadem was closed, if I remember correctly and based on some lore forum posts I found.
    I have a feeling they might have had plans to keep methods to obtain them in the new re-vamped Diadem they were going to do with the Ishgard restoration, but decided it wasn't worth the effort since the Coven weapons are only i280, were locked behind insane RNG, and on top of all of that, the Coven GNB shares its model with the Doman iron Gunblade, afaik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    Technically they were obtainable between 5.0 -> 5.1 which was when the diadem was closed, if I remember correctly and based on some lore forum posts I found.
    I have a feeling they might have had plans to keep methods to obtain them in the new re-vamped Diadem they were going to do with the Ishgard restoration, but decided it wasn't worth the effort since the Coven weapons are only i280, were locked behind insane RNG, and on top of all of that, the Coven GNB shares its model with the Doman iron Gunblade, afaik.
    Technically yeah, but they were still practically un-obtainable. No one ever qued for Diadem, and even if they did the shear amount of time it'd take for you to actually get it wouldnt be nye impossible. Hell it was nye impossible when Diadem first came out XD
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    Own 123 of 126 gunblades currently in game. I like gunblades.

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    You still get aetherial accessories and belts from old dungeons, but I'm not too sure how far their random stats go, being accessories and all.
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    I don't know about gunbreaker and dancer, but the rest of the coven weapon models are available as PVP weapons I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    I don't know about gunbreaker and dancer, but the rest of the coven weapon models are available as PVP weapons I believe.
    I can confirm this. Coven weaponry are the Heavensward 180 category from the PvP Arms vendors.
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    Last edited by TheHyperFusion; 10-05-2020 at 05:49 AM.

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    Wolf Mark Exchange, Beastlord Gear ilvl 180
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamzaLowshadow View Post
    Wolf Mark Exchange, Beastlord Gear ilvl 180
    This was already stated in a previous post, and the discussion is three years old.
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