Red Mage: I am not a Back line class

[Aldarin]

So if you look at the numerous variations on jobs, most of the jobs have a consistent theme. For Red Mage, the theme is a combo of white and black magic. FFXI put the connotation of enfeebler on Red Mage, which is not true throughout the series. Another class that does White Magic/Black Magic is the Sage, which could be used instead.

The class that FFXI RDM borrows from in terms of the Magic/Melee is the Spell Blade/Mystic Knight, which is only seen in a few games. The Mystic Knight has the ability to imbue their weapon with a spell, increasing damage and helping to mitigate some forms of damage reduction.

[Mireille]

As the title says Red Mage is not a back line class I hope it's not when they implement it.

Makes me feel like posting a 'Summoner: I am not a healing job' thread....

[Elexia]

Makes me feel like posting a 'Summoner: I am not a healing job' thread....

As true as that is, you only have SE to blame for that lol. They attached healing magic to most summoners in the series.

[Airget]

The basis of a Red mage is a backline job. A Red mage has 33% white magic, 33% black magic and 33% "attack". In the FF series a Red mage was able to fulfill all roles and while they couldn't hit as hard as a warrior, use strong magic like a black mage or cure as big as a white mage they could handle any situation. Fight a mob that's immune to magic, they can still strike for decent dmg with their blade, fight a mob immune to physical attacks they can use magic. In one situation the black mage is useless and in another the warrior is useless but overall the Red Mage can find themselves always useful in any situation. The blade they wield signifies that they are also capable of melee combat but it's not their main strength.

The reason why Red mage was given the identity of an enfeebler was to expand on their jack of all trades aspect, their enfeeble factor allows them to make up for their abilities in fighting, curing and elemental magic. Red mages can't cure as much as a White mage but they can conjure up potent enfeebles to reduce the amount of healing that may need to be done over time. If Red mage is introduced in this game it won't be focused as a melee it's main focus will most likely be the enfeeble factor, if you want a magic class that use magic and is a front-line fighter then it would be better to look at a class which interprets the ability Celes uses, Runic Blade. Runic Blade could be a mix of a magic defense and melee class using the absorb ability to reduce damage taken from magical attacks while using the same magical energy to send it back to the foe.

[i_love_lamps]

The basis of a Red mage is a backline job. A Red mage has 33% white magic, 33% black magic and 33% "attack". In the FF series a Red mage was able to fulfill all roles and while they couldn't hit as hard as a warrior, use strong magic like a black mage or cure as big as a white mage they could handle any situation. Fight a mob that's immune to magic, they can still strike for decent dmg with their blade, fight a mob immune to physical attacks they can use magic. In one situation the black mage is useless and in another the warrior is useless but overall the Red Mage can find themselves always useful in any situation. The blade they wield signifies that they are also capable of melee combat but it's not their main strength.

The reason why Red mage was given the identity of an enfeebler was to expand on their jack of all trades aspect, their enfeeble factor allows them to make up for their abilities in fighting, curing and elemental magic. Red mages can't cure as much as a White mage but they can conjure up potent enfeebles to reduce the amount of healing that may need to be done over time. If Red mage is introduced in this game it won't be focused as a melee it's main focus will most likely be the enfeeble factor, if you want a magic class that use magic and is a front-line fighter then it would be better to look at a class which interprets the ability Celes uses, Runic Blade. Runic Blade could be a mix of a magic defense and melee class using the absorb ability to reduce damage taken from magical attacks while using the same magical energy to send it back to the foe.

and of course the 1% sexy.

[Zantetsuken]

I really like the idea of 'Stance' spells as a way to create the Jack-of-all-trades theme in a FFXIV RDM.

I could see something like this working; (RDM job skills)

• Faith (spell-self only): Enhances Magic attack Power - Reduces melee attack power - Stacks up to 3x
• Brave (spell-self only): Enhances Melee attack Power - Reduces magic attack power - Stacks up to 3x
• Bubble (spell-self only): Doubles Maximum HP - Greatly reduces magic and melee attack power
• Blossom Edge (weaponskill): Deals damage proportional to your enmity and then reduces it.
• Chainspell (ability): Cast spells in rapid succession

[Maxthunder]

ok cool red mage mid combat as a class, advan job red wizard back line job. Now start refreshing!!!!

[Keyln]

As true as that is, you only have SE to blame for that lol. They attached healing magic to most summoners in the series.

Actually, that's not true. In most games, summoning was it's own thing, not really associated with any other type of magic. While it was true that the same character had white magic and summoning magic in some of the games (IX and X specifically), most of the time, it was its own thing which can be used in conjunction with other types of magic (III, V, XI) or other magic (IV) or it's own special system (VI, VII, VIII, XII, XIII).

It is not true that summoning magic has always been with healing magic.

[Alhanelem]

Any job or class can be whatever they want it to be and it's not up to any one person here to tell them what it is or isn't supposed to be.

[Klive]

Agreed, being a fan does not grant rights to an intellectual property. I'm just speculating for fun.