Thread: Empty maps in 2.0(and new maps in general)

Originally Posted by Jinko

Well I spent almost 2 hours trying to get one gate today and ended up given up because there was no way past the monsters at Lasthold in the black shroud.

What you find fun I find damn right stupid.

Of course you aren't keen on platforming :P, are you one of those who didn't want jump added by any chance ?

I"m gotten a majority of the nodes and while I can understand your frustration what challenge would there be if they made all the "Exploration" areas easy as pie to get. Would you really feel like an achieved explorer if you found all the nodes with little trouble lol. The point of achievement is to be challenging it's not something everything can get, sure some people can get more of one achievement then the other but overall things like explorer achievement is for those who are willing to take the extra mile to get past the strong enemies that block them from achieving their goal.

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lol so I've started to "explore" again, when you realize the tricks behind certain mobs it can be pretty fun. The red clippers won't aggro if you walk behind them, as long as they don't see you moving you can get past them just gotta be patient and experiment XD.

Originally Posted by Airget

I"m gotten a majority of the nodes and while I can understand your frustration what challenge would there be if they made all the "Exploration" areas easy as pie to get. Would you really feel like an achieved explorer if you found all the nodes with little trouble lol.

Yea because it would still require a vast amount of time, what we have right now is not difficult it is insane.

There is a small window of opportunity to get through to some gates and its all based on luck... luck as usual, luck should not be the deciding factor on how difficult a challenge is. (at least not in my opinion)

Edit-
lol so I've started to "explore" again, when you realize the tricks behind certain mobs it can be pretty fun. The red clippers won't aggro if you walk behind them, as long as they don't see you moving you can get past them just gotta be patient and experiment XD.

Actually crabs are sound aggro, you can walk in front of them behind them or anywhere around then as long as you are walking they won't aggro.

The ridiculousness is when you get:-
Drake - Sound based
Raptor - Sight based
Boar - Odour based

All in the same tiny corridor, there is no way of getting past them, drakes still have ranged attacks so can one shot you without any problem.

This is my problem, now if the monsters were level 60 I would have no problem, but you don't stand a chance against something 70-90.

For me challenge would be fighting your way through to a gate with a few like minded people.

Climbing a cliff like Attowa chasm in FF11, finding your way through a maze like in eldomine necropolis, jumping up platforms etc, there are many better ways to incorporate challenge without relying on cheap tactics.