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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I mean, I don't think anyone's saying it couldn't be done?
    We must read the argument that it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the cash shop differently :P. To me that says "it couldn't exist if it wasn't for the cash shop", which in some cases yeah actually I 100% think that's true. In the case of the chocobo carriage, Slepnir, or things like a main boss emote, that "couldn't be done" sounds like a copout.

    I don't say copout like "HOW DARE YOU", just sounds really bad standing right next to "these things can't be made if it wasn't for the cash shop" when the thing was, figuratively, 25% done or more (say some things require a lot more polish to take from a character to all races, but like Slepnir already worked on all the races before it was sold on the shop, and even if it does take more polish it isn't to say they couldn't do it like what has happened to one of our NPCs).


    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    So I'm inclined to cut them some slack on stuff like this.
    That's fine lol.

    Even if it was available in game I probably would have used it once or twice, on a personal level the snap means not too much to me since I hardly use emotes anyways XD.

    Just on a sense of hearing people talk in absolutes, some people at least, and in a sense arguing against their own favor, always seems a bit funny to me. Like we've Bethesda that'll charge you 25$ for a silly digital item meanwhile we've CD Prokjet that gives you a bunch of DLC for free and then when it charges for something it's quite size-able. There is absolutely a nuance that is avoided when I say this statement (non-nuanced statement incoming), but sometimes it looks like people are begging for companies to be like EA / Activision (at their worst) and then eager to complain about it when they've taught the company to be like that lol. Sometimes it almost looks like an auction war against each other, not here in this thread but I've seen it in general here and on other games lol, where people are like "I'd pay $10 for that!" and another "I'd pay $40!" and the company is sitting there like ". . . .I was going to charge $5.....". Simultaneously we're already getting requests to take other gear and ensure it goes into the shop rather than have it become some sort of meaningful reward.

    Obviously in situations where clearly the gear would have NEVER existed without the shop are not accounted for in the above, but there are situations, sometimes, where I actually don't believe people or SE that it couldn't have been in the game without the shop (as they were already partially or more produced in game) and that we shouldn't be trying to act as their accountants anyways, with the scale and business senses that they're using it's a bit mystifying if we pretend we're even adequately equipped to direct their finance "poor SE couldn't afford that mount that was already 35% made in game if it wasn't for the shop, it's a good thing I subsidize them" or "SE makes X$ a month due to this, so therefore they clearly have funds to make what I want" (both made quotes clearly being a bit of a hyperbole / caricature just to be clear, ). Just.. eh.. lol.

    Posting from a mix of view points and emotions, mostly being seeing people speak in absolutes or at least appear so unintentionally (huge pet peeve of mine, overconfidence is a sin dangit! lol), and then also that weird bemusement as you see people beg SE to make more opportunities to take their money as if that was a core part of the value of the request (it's not just that they want the item, they 'want' to pay for it too! which isn't a sin but certainly has me reading like "....personally I don't like parting with my money, interesting to read how ready others are to part with theirs" lol).

    Besides while I'm not a fan of the shop I do happen to have the bike / odin mount so take everything with a side of salt and a tall glass of hypocrisy .
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