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    Belts actually did used to be visible, in the original version of FFXIV (version 1.0). However, SE scrapped it in the changeover to ARR as they felt it restricted gear design in order to ensure every belt would not clip badly on every body piece/leg piece, so belts are now just a stat-booster and nothing else with no actual appearence (your body piece often has a belt on it instead). They're fine as they are really. It's just yet another legacy of 1.0.

    As for it being the only piece of gear that doesn't have an actual appearence, that is wrong, your Soul Crystal also does not visibly appear on your character and that is equally important. So I do not see SE changing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    They come in four flavors; Tanks, Phys DPS, Magic DPS, and Heals.
    It actually comes in 7 flavors, just like the other left-sided gears.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    your Soul Crystal also does not visibly appear on your character
    I actually want soul crystals to be removed as well and either a class cannot go past level 30 before they unlock and upgrade to a job (and once upgraded, cannot go back to being a class, thus making soul crystal irrelevant) or remove class altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    It actually comes in 7 flavors, just like the other left-sided gears.

    I actually want soul crystals to be removed as well and either a class cannot go past level 30 before they unlock and upgrade to a job (and once upgraded, cannot go back to being a class, thus making soul crystal irrelevant) or remove class altogether.
    Ah, fair point on the belts/accessories; I play a Tank these days, so haven't paid close enough attention!

    As for Job Crystals... they're TECHNICALLY unnecessary, but I think they're still really important to the overall "fantasy" for the game. Equipping a two-handed Sword doesn't really explain why I'm suddenly using the power of Darkness to fuel my attacks instead of Light if I was originally a Paladin.

    Belts, though, I actually do think warrant being removed. They're far and away the least exciting piece of loot, and I think just being able to clean the UI up as I suggested would be *REALLY* nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    As for Job Crystals... they're TECHNICALLY unnecessary, but I think they're still really important to the overall "fantasy" for the game. Equipping a two-handed Sword doesn't really explain why I'm suddenly using the power of Darkness to fuel my attacks instead of Light if I was originally a Paladin.
    I think they're great for unlocking the job, but bad for actually using the job since equipping them doesn't really mean anything. At least with a belt, you know it's supposed to be on your waist even if you don't see it, but where do you equip a soul crystal? And so it makes no sense since you technically have all your soul crystals with you at any time unless you put them on your chocobo or retainer.

    If need be, they should just be added to some currency tab to show that you've unlocked the job, but remove them as an item in your inventory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I think they're great for unlocking the job, but bad for actually using the job since equipping them doesn't really mean anything. At least with a belt, you know it's supposed to be on your waist even if you don't see it, but where do you equip a soul crystal? And so it makes no sense since you technically have all your soul crystals with you at any time unless you put them on your chocobo or retainer.

    If need be, they should just be added to some currency tab to show that you've unlocked the job, but remove them as an item in your inventory.
    Well, I wouldn't be too upset of they just removed Job Crystals. I still think they serve an important function, though, just in communicating who and what you are; if you remove Job Crystals, then I'd be a little afraid it would feel like "well all I did was change my weapon, why are all of my abilities suddenly so different?". Job Crystals kind of explain that.

    Having said that, I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the base "Classes" just start with Job Crystals, too, and make them mandatory/automatically equipped for each Job. Maybe when you start as a Gladiator, the item is just listed as "Strange crystal", but when you become a Paladin, it's "true form" is revealed to you as the Paladin soul crystal. Functionally, though, it would prevent you from being without a crystal, since the base "Classes" are completely redundant now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Well, I wouldn't be too upset of they just removed Job Crystals. I still think they serve an important function, though, just in communicating who and what you are; if you remove Job Crystals, then I'd be a little afraid it would feel like "well all I did was change my weapon, why are all of my abilities suddenly so different?". Job Crystals kind of explain that.

    Having said that, I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the base "Classes" just start with Job Crystals, too, and make them mandatory/automatically equipped for each Job. Maybe when you start as a Gladiator, the item is just listed as "Strange crystal", but when you become a Paladin, it's "true form" is revealed to you as the Paladin soul crystal. Functionally, though, it would prevent you from being without a crystal, since the base "Classes" are completely redundant now.
    I would simply make Job Crystals a Key Item, and then providing you have it at all (and you won't be able to get rid of it) then you will automatically be the Job version of whatever weapon class you equip.
    No more level 50 CNJ's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I would simply make Job Crystals a Key Item, and then providing you have it at all (and you won't be able to get rid of it) then you will automatically be the Job version of whatever weapon class you equip.
    No more level 50 CNJ's.
    I suppose that's technically fine. Like I said, I just think that even know *WE* know that changing your weapon means changing your Job and all your abilities, I think it's a concept that would be sort of harder to grasp if the Soul Crystal wasn't present on some level. I'd definitely like to see the UI updated a bit there; maybe merging the "Gear Sets" function with the literal "Soul Crystal", just to condense things down a little more?

    Additionally, it might not necessarily be the worth thing in the world, if certain weapon-types were perhaps shared...? Dark Knights and Warriors, for example, both use heavy Strength 2handers; one is simply a Sword, and the other an Axe. White Mages and Black Mages both use staffs, to my knowledge. If Soul Crystal determined your "Job", then it would stand to reason that the devs COULD -- if they wanted -- have weapons usable by multiple Jobs, which is at least interesting to consider.

    Also, having watched the Showcase lastnight, definitely happy seeing Belts removed! Hopefully they line-up the UI equipment slots as I suggested
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    At least with a belt, you know it's supposed to be on your waist even if you don't see it, but where do you equip a soul crystal? And so it makes no sense since you technically have all your soul crystals with you at any time unless you put them on your chocobo or retainer.
    They're clearly jolly ranchers, my dude. You don't see them, and your character is perpetually silent, because they're busy enjoying the many flavors of those sweet, sweet Soul Crystal juices.
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