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    I agree. Prepare to defend your idea from the mob of people that will storm this thread to negate your post.
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    OP, the casual players will cry to SE and call us nazi-elitists for out pulling the NM/HNM/Boss or what have you. They're like the Neo-American-Socialists, bunch of lazy, non-competitive, cry babies that couldn't survive in my world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    LOL


    OP, the casual players will cry to SE and call us nazi-elitists for out pulling the NM/HNM/Boss or what have you. They're like the Neo-American-Socialists, bunch of lazy, non-competitive, cry babies that couldn't survive in my world.
    I'm not trying to segregate or discriminate between "hardcore" and "casual" players. In fact, I honestly don't see how open world content is inherently more "hardcore" than instanced content. What I am trying to say, however, is that open world content has a different feel and appeal (A greater sense of immersion and exploration) than instanced content (Which also has it's merits), and that I really hope the developers don't fall into creating only content of the instanced variety due to the coming dungeon finder (and the fact that all recent new content has been instanced)
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    Last edited by Jocko; 04-14-2012 at 02:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    I'm not trying to segregate or discriminate between "hardcore" and "casual" players. In fact, I honestly don't see how open world content is inherently more "hardcore" than instanced content. What I am trying to say, however, is that open world content has a different feel and appeal (A greater sense of immersion and exploration) than instanced content (Which also has it's merits), and that I really hope the developers don't fall into creating only content of the instanced variety due to the coming dungeon finder (and the fact that all recent new content as been instanced)
    I personally appreciate your measured tone, Jocko. illriginalized is a bit overly aggressive, and doesn't tend to handle arguments very well, if his thread on gear-swapping is any indication

    In response to your original post - I agree completely. I'm hoping the dungeon finder is mostly restricted to the events that were a PITA (re: required end-game shells and all the associated drama) for casual players to enjoy in FFXI. Dynamis, Limbus, Salvage and Einherjar all come to mind. These sorts of larger-scale battlefields seem ideally suited for a content finder, because everyone could then participate if they want to, without having to put up with the elitist community that dominated FFXI's end-game scene.

    Keeping *other* types of events away from the content finder (random wandering NMs, story missions, even small-group instanced content like Assault) would give us the best of both worlds, as this would still allow for the community building and feeling of exploration that a lot of us remember fondly from FFXI. Just my thoughts, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    I'm not trying to segregate or discriminate between "hardcore" and "casual" players. In fact, I honestly don't see how open world content is inherently more "hardcore" than instanced content. What I am trying to say, however, is that open world content has a different feel and appeal (A greater sense of immersion and exploration) than instanced content (Which also has it's merits), and that I really hope the developers don't fall into creating only content of the instanced variety due to the coming dungeon finder (and the fact that all recent new content as been instanced)


    This is what I think, honestly.

    For quests/missions: Instance

    For drops: Non-instance or open world? Dunno the terminology. Or a mixture, some being instance some others being free to all for the sake of competitiveness.

    For Primal: Instance arena


    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    I personally appreciate your measured tone, Jocko. illriginalized is a bit overly aggressive, and doesn't tend to handle arguments very well, if his thread on gear-swapping is any indication .
    Oh man.. that barely scratches the surface. I can't even read more than 5 threads in a day or I'd have to go take anger management classes. Some of the posts I've seen in this forum makes me wonder why do some of these people even play the game? But meh
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    Last edited by illriginalized; 04-13-2012 at 11:18 PM.

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    Player Denmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    LOL


    OP, the casual players will cry to SE and call us nazi-elitists for out pulling the NM/HNM/Boss or what have you. They're like the Neo-American-Socialists, bunch of lazy, non-competitive, cry babies that couldn't survive in my world.
    I'm a casual player, and I'm all for NM/HNM/Bosses in the open world or what have you.

    If anything, I find that it's the hardcore gamers who spend most of the time in the forums complaining about things that don't really matter in the long run~
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